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Old 10-30-2016, 06:23 PM   #1
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Shower diverter valve


This is a 3-handle shower with tub. For the last year, the shower diverter valve has been very stiff to turn, and squeaks when you turn it. This morning, my girlfriend said that she had no shower pressure, but had normal pressure when filling the tub. After verifying that the shower head wasn't the problem, I am now on to changing the diverter valve since I believe this is the issue.

I unscrewed the sleeve that holds the cartridge in, but cannot get the cartridge to pull out. I'm at the point where I am afraid that I will break it if I pull any harder. Any suggestions on getting it out? Also, can anybody identify it from looks and tell me what brand it may be? The closest I have found is this link showing a Danze. The stem extension looks like a match, but I don't know if others looked the same.

http://support.danze.com/app/answers...-shower-faucet

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Re: Shower diverter valve


Looks like a chrome retainer band holding the cartridge in. Unscrew it to remove.
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Looks like a chrome retainer band holding the cartridge in. Unscrew it to remove.
There's no chrome band that I can see. Just plastic on brass. It's stuck in place.
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Re: Shower diverter valve


Another question. Do I have to put the exact same diverter valve in there that I took out? Is there anything else that will fit?
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The replacement can be a compatible replacement. There are several aftermarket mfgs.

Did you already remove a retainer?
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Did you already remove a retainer?
Yes, the retainer was a chrome sleeve that screwed in over the stem extension. I've already removed that.
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ok, must be stuck from mineral build up.
bleach or vinegar might dissolve it if you can get it in there. Try tapping lightly?
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Anyone else got any tips, tricks, or special tools that could aid in getting it out, or can ID the type/brand from just looking at it?

For the time being, I put it back together and got the shower to work again by turning the handle back and forth.
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Get a cartridge puller. The big box stores have some, but a plumbing supply house would have a better selection.
Example:
https://www.lowes.com/pd/Danco-Stem-...r-Moen/1091403
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Looking at this from another angle. None of the knobs match, the hot and cold valve are most likely just as old as the shower valve. Suppose I want to update the look of it while replacing the cartridges. How do I know a new kit will fit? What should I be looking for?
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Since you can not positively identify make and model, your best bet will be to pull the valves and diverter and bring them with you. A real plumbing supply would be most helpful.
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Looking at this from another angle. None of the knobs match, the hot and cold valve are most likely just as old as the shower valve. Suppose I want to update the look of it while replacing the cartridges. How do I know a new kit will fit? What should I be looking for?
If you have no luck with a cartridge puller, it looks like a call to a plumber. Have him replace all 3 stems while there. Or, replace the whole 3 handle shower head that comes with all new knobs and hardware. Expensive at 100 bucks give or take. If you can sweat copper it's a DIY job.

The pros might frown on this but it worked for me in a pinch with a 3 handle compression stem with a bad diverter. I replaced the tub spout with a diverter spout.


Keep your diverter knob on. Pull the spout pin and it blocks water coming from the spout hopefully kicking it up to the shower. Costs around $20.
It was just a temp. fix in my case.
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