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Old 09-14-2015, 08:08 AM   #1
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Salt based water softeners destroy septic?


I am thinking about getting a water softener for my had water problems. Will getting a salt based water softener ruin my septic? The softener will only regenerate when a certain amount of water is used not on a daily cycle.
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How hard is the water and the number of people for the house?
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Very hard water. Did a home test and had a guy come over and he said it was very hard..I forget the number that he gave me. It is only my wife and I and our two year old son.
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Just moved into the house in June and we are already seeing the effects of the hard water.
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Very hard water. Did a home test and had a guy come over and he said it was very hard..I forget the number that he gave me. It is only my wife and I and our two year old son.
A statement like that form some one in that kind of job is going to do little in setting up any equipment.

Now one thing that I have come across is that if a system is cleaning about once a week then there should be little to no harm on a septic system.
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he did a lot of different water test, I just don't remember exactly what he said about the final results except my water is very hard. Thank you for the reply. I think I'm going to go with a Culligan salt based whole house water softener with the drinking water filter system. The salt less systems seam like a gimmick to me.
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Never heard of that one. I have septic and a water softner. Been in place of 20yrs. No problem with either so far.
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Great hope I have the same luck
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he did a lot of different water test, I just don't remember exactly what he said about the final results except my water is very hard. Thank you for the reply. I think I'm going to go with a Culligan salt based whole house water softener with the drinking water filter system. The salt less systems seam like a gimmick to me.
Culligan? like spending money?
There should be another local dealer that is not of the corp and charging first born.
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JP, they did make a point to tell me to use crystal and not pellet salt. Don't know if its because of the septic or not. Maybe you can ask your installer.
If you have doubt, call a local septic installer, they will know
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Pellet can bridge and then there is the binders from the pellets that does not always brake down.
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Standard procedure is the discharge is routed to the storm drain in my area.
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My parents had a septic system for over 50 years. Also had a salt-based water softener. As far as I know, they never had a septic problem. Nor have I, but my septic system is only 7 years old.
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I am thinking about getting a water softener for my had water problems. Will getting a salt based water softener ruin my septic? The softener will only regenerate when a certain amount of water is used not on a daily cycle.
i did a google search and posted from their i have a salt system and i don't let my salt water go in their , i have a dranage ditch for that

Water softeners typically use salt as part of the process to make hard water work better. Water quality and sewage treatment experts have conducted studies on the effects of sodium in wastewater treatment. These experts have come to conflicting conclusions since most studies were carried out in ideal or non-traditional septic system situations. A study from the National Sanitation Foundation that focused on salt-based water softeners emptying into an aerobic septic system found that the sodium introduced into the septic system was not harmful.

Soft Water
Water softeners use sodium in a process called ion exchange to strip the minerals that cause hard water. Sodium replaces calcium and magnesium, making the water “soft.” This soft water works more efficiently than hard water and requires less detergent, soap and shampoo to achieve the same amount of cleanliness. Softening water requires an occasional “regeneration,” which empties the filtered minerals into water treatment facilities.

Septic Systems
A conventional septic system uses anaerobic bacteria in a septic tank to break down harmful organisms in household sewage and wastewater. All water from the home—dishwater, bathing water and toilet flushing—enters the septic tank and separates into solids and liquids. Some homeowners worry that adding sodium and the amounts of water needed to soften water will adversely affect their septic system’s functionality by killing the essential bacteria or overloading the system.
Water Softener Effects
Because septic systems rely on naturally occurring bacteria in the septic tank to break down pathogens, research has been conducted to determine whether salt harms these bacteria. According to CAI Technologies, the amount of sodium introduced into the septic system through water softener regeneration is quite low, only 5,000 to 10,000 parts per million every so often.

Water volume during regeneration is also minimal--about 50 gallons, according to the Water Quality Association--and is added to the septic system slowly to prevent overload. Well-maintained and adequately sized septic systems are designed to handle this amount, which is less than the output from a top-loading washing machine.


The Water Quality Association, or WQA, says salt-based water softeners are not harmful to septic systems. The WQA adds that delivery of the calcium and magnesium stripped from hard water into the drain fields improves bacterial growth and development. Dr. Mark Gross of Orenco Systems maintains that the studies cited by WQA were carried out on aerobic septic systems and not on the more popular anaerobic septic system. Gross says that salt water sinks to the bottom of an anaerobic septic tank and displaces the solids, which then pass into the drain fields, risking untreated pathogen delivery to the ground water.

Considerations
Although experts disagree on the effects of salt-based water softeners on traditional septic systems, most agree with the Environmental Protection Agency’s recommendations for keeping a septic system working properly. The EPA's recommended steps for good septic tank health include disconnecting your garbage disposal to eliminate food solids that decrease septic tank effectiveness. Reducing water usage overall helps the septic system to work better. Using natural products instead of harsh chemical cleaners and bathing products decreases the risks of killing beneficial septic tank bacteria.
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Now one thing that I have come across is that if a system is cleaning about once a week then there should be little to no harm on a septic system.
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