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Old 06-08-2017, 02:50 PM   #1
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Last year I bought a house that was built in 1971. In the basement there seems to be a rough in for a toilet but was hoping someone might confirmed before I try and torch it open. It seems placed such that it's appropriate for a toilet.

Thoughts?

And I was only half kidding about a torch. If it is a plug is torch the best approach?

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Before you break that cap. Do you have any other pipes for a sink in that area? That might be a clean out for your sewer.
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Hey Ghostmaker, thanks for the reply. Would it be a cleanout if there is another cleanout near by? There also seems to be a rough in for a sink drain (the layout seems right if you can see the whole space. The sink is circled in yellow. The cleanout in blue and the floor plug/cleanout? Is in green. I also uploaded a closeup of the cleanout in blue.

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That could be a toilet.
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That could be a toilet.
Sure would be in India.....
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Not enough info or pics. Usually there is/was a cleanout installed at the beginning or the plumbing run near the stack when the sewer is under the slab..

And pics of proximity of said cleanout/toiler rough to walls, stack, etc are needed...
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Hey, Mike, welcome aboard. Looking at the bottom picture, does it appear heat has already been applied to the fitting. Note the burn cracks in the tile. Maybe during installation?
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Hi Larry... I cant tell what that cap is.. If its cast iron and leaded in or not as I cant see a hub...

A clean out of that era would have a brass plug... But who knows. Once you remove the brass plug you never get it back in. Only a fits all lead plug or someone leaded a cap in there.

They would have to scrape around it to see if theres a hub or not..
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Hey guys thanks for the replies. Sorry for the delay in responding; my wife was out of town so it was a little daddy daycare this weekend.

I had thought the staining around the parameter was when the floor drain about 3' away backed up but now I see what you mean about the burning being a possibility. I hadn't considered that.

When the drain backed up, it loosened the tile so I figured I'd remove it to try and answer Lawrosa's questions. Unfortunately I'm probably more confused now!

But to answer the questions, the clean out is about 2' away; the mystery cap is 11.5" off the sill plate; but after removing the tile, it looks like what ever was there was longer at one point as it has jagged edge. Hopefully the pics help tell the story.

As always, thanks for all the help!


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OK now I see more of the picture. With that pipe in the background with the sweep going into the floor and the location of that cap I would say its for a toilet.

Also that other pipe on the left..

That jagged edge would have been the old cast toilet flange IMO...

As far as the other two pipes and what you might do for the sink can you answer this,

Does any waste from upstairs flow down any of these two pipes?
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OK now I see more of the picture. With that pipe in the background with the sweep going into the floor and the location of that cap I would say its for a toilet.

Also that other pipe on the left..

That jagged edge would have been the old cast toilet flange IMO...

As far as the other two pipes and what you might do for the sink can you answer this,

Does any waste from upstairs flow down any of these two pipes?


It seems all waste from above comes down the pipe with the clean out. The sweep pipe ties into the drain I thought was for the sink. In running water from the upstairs, I don't think any waste comes down that pipe (this is the yellow circled pipe in my first post).

With that said, if no other waste comes down that pipe, does that mean it's only for venting and therefore not suitable for a sink?

Thanks for all your help!


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