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Old 02-13-2016, 04:46 PM   #1
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Retaining Lever Control Of Pop-Up Drain (Non-Overflow Sink)


I am purchasing an oval copper undermount sink and a Delta single hole faucet. The sink has no overflow provision. Of course the included Delta drain/pop-up assembly is for an overflow sink. I want to retain the faucet's lift-lever control for a drain stopper. Between Delta, the sink manufacturer and a big box store tech line, everybody says the only thing available is a drain assembly that either has no stopper provision, or is the push to engage, push to release variety. I say B.S.! Putting your hands to the bottom of a (potentially well soiled) pool of water after washing face/hands etc. to drain the sink makes no sense. This is a significant upgrade from "builder quality" materials. It's ludicrous to sacrifice mechanical control and revert to the kind of drain that is suited for college dorm. I cannot be the first person to face this situation and not be satisfied with those limitations. Any suggestions? Thanks.
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whats the difference if there is or is not an overflow hole? just dont overflow the sink when filling it...just install the faucet and pop up...
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whats the difference if there is or is not an overflow hole? just dont overflow the sink when filling it...just install the faucet and pop up...
That is not the issue. I went through the same logic process you are putting forth. Simple rule, don't walk away from a filling sink. Works in my kitchen, should work in the bathroom. But that's not the concern.

My query is specific to the primary drain and stopper operation. You will recall a "normal" drain assembly has the side-located ports that extract the overflow water, through the hollow cavity in your typical overflow-equipped sink. Once installed in an overflow sink, those ports are not visible from above or below, they are internalized in the sink. Place the same drain in a single-layer sink drain hole, and those drain ports are now in your vanity cabinet below the sink structure - obviously allowing water to vent sideways to some extent. Not workable.

I'll probably end up manufacturing my own from hybrid parts if necessary, or determining a way to block-off the overflow ports on the Delta drain assembly ... fiberglass layup wrapped around the holes perhaps? But I really should not have to do that. These copper sinks are increasing in popularity and I'm no pioneer in facing the issue.
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the pop-ups supplied in most vanity faucets ..are for standard sinks with overflows...hence standard...what you seek is a special order pop up assy for thin sinks without overflows...check with you supplier...
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gotcha, you didnt explain that as well in the first post...depending on the pop up you bought, many come 2 piece, the top piece with what you descripe for the overflow and the bottom piece that has the rod for the pop up....you can get just the top piece for that type of sink and if you get the same threads as the bottom of the pop up it should screw on and your set, just make sure the sealing pop up fits the new top piece, it may be a bit of a job to match all that up, but doable...have you tried some of the restoration sites that sell new old looking sinks, for a pop up drain for that sink?
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maybe something like this
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how thin is the sink at the bottom where the drain goes?
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