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Old 12-04-2015, 02:36 PM   #16
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That's even better, so I'll be back sooner with the picture.
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you should see the rest of the house
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Old 12-04-2015, 03:49 PM   #18
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There is nothing to take apart, the whole metal box is the water heater. You need to remove the top to access the piping and electrical connections. Sears (and probably others make that type water heater in 2 sizes:

27 Gallon, 21" wide
40 Gallon, 24" wide

They are both 36" wide and 25" deep.

You will likely need a plumber to remove the old and install the new.
http://www.sears.com/kenmore-40-gal-...p-04231813000P
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Okay. The 27-gallon is what I had that broke that Sears no longer makes, so I will call a plumber to replace it with the 40-gallon and I won't have to upgrade my electric (in summary). Good enough. Thanks a million for clearing this up for me and especially for stopping me before I peeled off all that paper!
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You'll have to repaper the new one of course.
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Here is another option if you want to stay with a 27" wide unit.

http://www.hotwater.com/water-heater...eater-estt-30/

Should be available at any plumbing supply house that carries A O Smith

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At first, I thought you were kidding about the paper, but now I'm not laughing. The pic shows the really rusty baked enamel cabinet, and the clean porcelain top. I might just need an element, but had decided to replace the whole WH before it leaks -- again -- like the first one did, and that cabinet might crumble at the rate it is rusting.

The old manual says:

This water heater, as well as all water heaters, will eventually leak.
Do not install without adequate drainage provisions where
water flow will cause damage.

Do people really install drains with their water heaters? Is that expensive?

I will check to see what the AO cabinet is made out of. I doubt it's porcelain and probably would be too expensive if it were.





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I have never seen a way to use a drain pan with a cabinet mounted unit like you have. You might be able to have a washing machine pan.

Not sure how it would look?



http://www.amazon.com/Oatey-34067-Pl...hine+drip+pans
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At first, I thought you were kidding about the paper, but now I'm not laughing. The pic shows the really rusty baked enamel cabinet, and the clean porcelain top. I might just need an element, but had decided to replace the whole WH before it leaks -- again -- like the first one did, and that cabinet might crumble at the rate it is rusting.

The old manual says:

This water heater, as well as all water heaters, will eventually leak.
Do not install without adequate drainage provisions where
water flow will cause damage.

Do people really install drains with their water heaters? Is that expensive?

I will check to see what the AO cabinet is made out of. I doubt it's porcelain and probably would be too expensive if it were.
Porcelain on steel is no longer made because it is next to impossible to recycle. We bought a laundry pair at Sears which were the last of their appliances still made that way back around 1998. Nowadays it's enamel on steel.
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That's contact paper. Just replace it normally an electric will last 15 or more years.
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That Amazon drain pan does not seem to hold 27 or 40 gallons of water, which could all leak out while I'm gone, so I don't see the point. Even if leaking water drained off nice and pretty, I might not know it is leaking and the thing might burn up, if I understand.

Could I replace my unit with a standard Sears 30-gallon compact WH (no cabinet, 120 volts) in the same spot, with the same electricity? The compact is 30" high and 22" wide

I could save the porcelain top and use it for the top of a cabinet I could build (well, I wouldn't build it) around the tank. Or is that as bad as contact paper...

This is a hard decision and I appreciate your help. Soon I will make a decision because these cold showers are killing me.
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The drain pan isn't meant to hold all the water, it needs to be plumbed outside or to a drain.
You certainly can use a compact water heater and build a box around it.
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A new table top has the same top on it. I would just use it.
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The cabinet would have to be built so that the plumber could get to the WH when that one starts leaking and heating years from now. That vs. rust. The AO 27-gallon sounds like it is a brand-new thing, as there are no reviews on their website, but I'll click around s'more. So thank you again and again.
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