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Old 10-31-2017, 08:16 AM   #1
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Iím relocating about a 6 foot section of cold water pipe, and a 6 foot section of hot water pipe to give my new staircase more clearance. My question, do I need this fitting that the arrow is pointing to on the attached image? Itís on the cold water pipe. If so, what is that fitting or valve called?



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That may be a bleed. Does it look like what's on the side of this valve?
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That may be a bleed. Does it look like what's on the side of this valve?


Yes there is a cap.
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If it's a bleed, I don't really see a good reason for it. I usually only see them on the side of a valve to drain the water from the line, when the valve is closed. A plumber should stop by later and confirm.
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Do those bleed valves ever leak? They scare me for some reason.
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Do those bleed valves ever leak? They scare me for some reason.


My father-in-law is a plumber and Iíll have him look at it. in the past when weíve done any plumbing we just bled the system by opening all the faucets.
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Do those bleed valves ever leak? They scare me for some reason.
Never had one leak, There is a gasket under the cap. They are on my inside shut-offs for the outside hose bibbs. Turn off the inside valve, open the outside valve, remove cap and water drains from the line.
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You could get rid of it if you want. Your diagram shows a laundry at end of the line; could be used to drain that line by opening it up there.
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Its a drain coupling so if you ever had to cut in a fitting on all that flat piping you could drain some of it.
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They make insulation for pipe.
https://www.lowes.ca/building-suppli...pe-insulation/
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Iím relocating about a 6 foot section of cold water pipe, and a 6 foot section of hot water pipe to give my new staircase more clearance. My question, do I need this fitting that the arrow is pointing to on the attached image? Itís on the cold water pipe. If so, what is that fitting or valve called?



Depending on how you are going to read route the pipe, you may wish to consider keeping that bleeder. With horizontal copper pipe, if you ever have to solder in a new fitting on that horizontal run, you need a way to get ALL, or virtually all of the water out of the pipe in order to solder in the new fitting. My guess is that bleeder was put there because that is a low spot in your horizontal. There are other ways to solder a fitting into a horizontal pipe using bread, but that is for a different day. If you are replacing the existing pipe with pex, or if you are using shark bite fittings for the new pipe, this is not an issue and you can remove the bleeder.

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Depending on how you are going to read route the pipe, you may wish to consider keeping that bleeder. With horizontal copper pipe, if you ever have to solder in a new fitting on that horizontal run, you need a way to get ALL, or virtually all of the water out of the pipe in order to solder in the new fitting. My guess is that bleeder was put there because that is a low spot in your horizontal. There are other ways to solder a fitting into a horizontal pipe using bread, but that is for a different day. If you are replacing the existing pipe with pex, or if you are using shark bite fittings for the new pipe, this is not an issue and you can remove the bleeder.

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It will be getting re-routed with copper.
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It will be getting re-routed with copper.
Are you going to solder in fittings or are you going to use sharkbites?

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I think I will take that bleeder out and put one bleeder on the low spot on each of the rerouted lines. The rerouted lines will be lower than the original pipe location to clear the other plumbing and electrical in the area.
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I think I will take that bleeder out and put one bleeder on the low spot on each of the rerouted lines. The rerouted lines will be lower than the original pipe location to clear the other plumbing and electrical in the area.
If you are going to be left with horizontal pipes, and are going to solder new fittings, I would suggest adding a bleeder as close to the lowest point of both pipes.

Shark bites are somewhat expensive, but, when you consider the time savings, to me, they are well worth it. It took me a long time to make the transition, but I now run all new supply plumbing using pex. Once I did my first house using it, I never looked back. It is a rare occasion now when I solder.

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