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Old 07-23-2016, 01:13 PM   #1
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6 years ago I purchased a water saving Kohler toilet. To match my decor in that case " Innocent blush" I darn well paid a lot of money for it.However,in most cases 2 or 3 flashes are required to get rid of the load no matter how small.Not only that,doing the second flush darn well fills up the John to the rim.Sitting there with a full load doing nothing,all in a sutton the toilet drains like it is sucked out by a vacuum.An auger paid many visits,the pipes are clean- period.
Is it possible that the main stack is plugged??All other appliances in the house drain very well.
Lost for answers.
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Old 07-23-2016, 02:07 PM   #2
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Sounds like an excess of paper. Do you need lessons?

Seriously now, try ho;ding the handle down on the first flush and if that works take a look at the flapper chain as it may be closing to soon.
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Old 07-23-2016, 04:21 PM   #3
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Sounds like an excess of paper. Do you need lessons?

Seriously now, try ho;ding the handle down on the first flush and if that works take a look at the flapper chain as it may be closing to soon.
Thanks Colbyt,will hold the handle down as always,checking the flapper chain is my next move,will keep you informed. Tanks Theo
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I was going to ask if this was one with two flush functions, one for liquids, one for solids, and if they were improperly set?

or used wrong?


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It is not a two flush function.Simply one handle for the whole process.
Puzzled never the less. There is no slack in the chain-all looks normal to me.
In my opinion it is simply a design problem.
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Was this always a problem from day one or did this recently start happening?
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I have a kohler water saver as well around the same age as yours. For number one, it's one quick flush and number two you hold the handle down for a couple seconds for a full flush as colby mentioned above. Never had any problems doing this procedure. It was a recommended procedure in the instruction sheet.

I agree, not the best design. I will go with another brand next time. I change mine around the 10 year mark.

If that procedure doesn't work, then it's possible, as you mentioned, there may be something else going on, (partial clogg somewhere, venting issue, the toilet bowl trap has something wedge/stuck it there), especially if it worked fine before and has recently started to happen. Just a thought.
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Thanks for the advise. I will try anything to get this problem solved. If not successful, my big backyard will accommodate an outhouse. Last resort.
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I have seen toilets with combs, toothbrushes, or other things hung up in the thing, and no matter how many times it was snaked, they stayed stuck.

Wound up taking it out, looking up from the bottom, see obstruction, pull obstruction out.

Re-install and you are good to "GO".


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I have seen toilets with combs, toothbrushes, or other things hung up in the thing, and no matter how many times it was snaked, they stayed stuck.

Wound up taking it out, looking up from the bottom, see obstruction, pull obstruction out.

Re-install and you are good to "GO".


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But the dam****est thing ever was was the lid off of a makeup case that pivoted. Just water went down smooth. Add some paper and it clogged time. Breaking that bowl to find the critter was an act of faith.
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