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Old 01-21-2016, 06:03 PM   #91
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We have no frosting issues in Northern Ohio with this method. Do find out if the one guy was correct on the 2 inch vent from a toilet is correct. Not in my code book but may be a local variance. I think our weather is about the same temperature wise.
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We have no frosting issues in Northern Ohio with this method. Do find out if the one guy was correct on the 2 inch vent from a toilet is correct. Not in my code book but may be a local variance. I think our weather is about the same temperature wise.
I did not find out from that guy if a 2" toilet vent is required but I will find out.

If I were to keep the first floor vents separate from the second floor vents, does the vent coming out the first floor attic just have to be 12" above the roof or does it need to be 6" above the highest flood level rim of the second floor which would make that vent coming out the first floor roof very tall.

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The vent through the roof needs to be a minimal of 12 inches above and 12 inches below 3 or 4 inch depends on local code Ohio it's 3 inch pipe. Also keep it 10 foot from any windows above.
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I did not find out from that guy if a 2" toilet vent is required but I will find out.

If I were to keep the first floor vents separate from the second floor vents, does the vent coming out the first floor attic just have to be 12" above the roof or does it need to be 6" above the highest flood level rim of the second floor which would make that vent coming out the first floor roof very tall.

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If they're not connected, no water from the second floor fixtures can enter, so no worries.

The 6" above connections are to make sure no fixture water can enter the vent pipes coming from below. If the water on the higher fixtures was to back up, it would overflow the sink before it gets a chance to run into where that 6" higher connection is made.
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minimum vent for a toilet is 2 inch on long island...and a question for the op..are you getting a permit for the plumbing work and getting it inspected?
Hi ShtRnsdownhill. Does Town of Islip require 2" vents for all water closets? I appreciate the insight.

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minimum vent for a toilet is 2 inch on long island...and a question for the op..are you getting a permit for the plumbing work and getting it inspected?
Hi ShtRnsdownhill. Does Town of Islip require 2" vents for all water closets? I appreciate the insight.

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Hi, dont take this the wrong way, but it sounds as if you have no idea on what your doing as far as proper piping of a plumbing system ,and you may or may not have a licensed plumber making the glued connections, if you did you wouldnt be here trying to find info out....and he would know proper sizes for DWV...you should call islip building dept and ask an inspector...before you make any dangerous connections...so to continue giving bits and pieces of info for something you shouldnt be doing is not proper...sorry...some people need tobe saved from themselves...
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Hi, dont take this the wrong way, but it sounds as if you have no idea on what your doing as far as proper piping of a plumbing system ,and you may or may not have a licensed plumber making the glued connections, if you did you wouldnt be here trying to find info out....and he would know proper sizes for DWV...you should call islip building dept and ask an inspector...before you make any dangerous connections...so to continue giving bits and pieces of info for something you shouldnt be doing is not proper...sorry...some people need tobe saved from themselves...
ShtRnsdienhill,

I appreciate the criticism. You're right, I am not a licensed plumber by trade nor am I carpenter but look what I was able to build with just my friend and I (See attached pictures). The house has passed every inspection without a glitch and it passed an electrical rough in on Monday which the work was performed by me. I'm pretty damn proud of it.

I am going to have a licensed plumber do the hookup because you can't pull a plumbing permit unless you are a licensed plumber and I then wouldn't get the CO for my house. I spoke to my plumber and he said for me to give him a call once I get everything fitted.

I build boats by trade and on many of the marine forums I belong to there are many private boaters that are on the sites seeking help and I always offer information regards of their knowledge base without being condescending. I always offer the proper information. It's up to the individual to determine if they are capable of understanding the information and performing the tasks.

Ghost, you are a gentleman and a scholar. From what I have and experienced, you have provided me and others on this site sound and quality information. My hat is off to you.

With that said, I will call the building department later and I will advise you on what they say.

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If they're not connected, no water from the second floor fixtures can enter, so no worries.

The 6" above connections are to make sure no fixture water can enter the vent pipes coming from below. If the water on the higher fixtures was to back up, it would overflow the sink before it gets a chance to run into where that 6" higher connection is made.
Pugsy,

Thanks for the info. It looks like I am going to have to tie the first floor vents to the second floor vents because if I put the first floor vents through the first floor roof, the vent pipe would be within 10 feet of the second floor windows.
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The vent through the roof needs to be a minimal of 12 inches above and 12 inches below 3 or 4 inch depends on local code Ohio it's 3 inch pipe. Also keep it 10 foot from any windows above.
Ghost. I just called my building department however the inspectors are in the office only in the mornings so I couldn't ask about the 2" vent. However the office said they do not have any local plumbing code. They follow the adopted NYS IPC/ICC codes.
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Pugsy,

Thanks for the info. It looks like I am going to have to tie the first floor vents to the second floor vents because if I put the first floor vents through the first floor roof, the vent pipe would be within 10 feet of the second floor windows.
Tie in 6" above the flood plain of the highest fixture and you'll be fine.

BTW, very nice renovation thus far.
A build thread would have been nice to follow.
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the house looks great, but you keep side stepping an answer to why the licensed plumber you are going to use wont spend and hour or 2 going over the plumbing of the pipes and give you all the answers you keep asking to make sure he wont walk into a nightmare when he comes to glue up the pipe? and you cant just fit pipe together and not glue it to actually get proper measurements and fitting into the beams...im not making a pissing match out of this, but if I was the plumber coming to glue it together, I would want to know the person laying out and drilling all the beams has an idea of whats going on..
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the house looks great, but you keep side stepping an answer to why the licensed plumber you are going to use wont spend and hour or 2 going over the plumbing of the pipes and give you all the answers you keep asking to make sure he wont walk into a nightmare when he comes to glue up the pipe? and you cant just fit pipe together and not glue it to actually get proper measurements and fitting into the beams...im not making a pissing match out of this, but if I was the plumber coming to glue it together, I would want to know the person laying out and drilling all the beams has an idea of whats going on..
Okay. I'll give the plumber a call tonight then. I'll just build the plumbing to what it calls for on the plans and will be done with. Attached is the diagram...
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your missing the point my friend....what you see on plans and getting the correct fittings and use of fittings into the house are 2 different stories, and to be honest, some architects have no clue about plumbing code..I have seen plenty of plans for plumbing that have specked 1 1/4 inch pvc for vents...problem is 1 1/4 pvc doesnt exist for plumbing...
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IPC code is IPC code. I am a plumbing inspector in the state of Ohio which follows the same damn code. He is well aware there may be local variances. All I'm doing is trying to get him in the right ball park.
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To the right is a Kitchen sink and a dishwasher?
If that is correct all you do is pick up the KS with vent The DW will drain above the KS trap. Either through a garbage disposal or a DW wye. You can run 1.5 inch pipe as a drain to this but better plumbers use 2 inch to the KS to help prevent blockage.
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