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Old 06-05-2017, 10:06 PM   #16
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Hey thanks for the help. Read up on those tools. The Fetch seems awesome but $500 for a little metal clamp? Really? https://www.thefetch.net/I saw a video of a farmer who fished out 150 of PVC and pump with braided cable he noosed around the lost pipe. He stuck it down there on a 3/4 pvc cinched it up and pulled it out with his tractor. An idea for me but I still think that think its probably stuck in there. And if I get ahold of it without the proper tool to release it if it's stuck, then I have two things stuck down there now. So far no drilling pro around here will touch it. I have a few more to call to see if they have taper taps or even a desire to help.

In the mean time, I found out I CAN slip a 3/4 pipe past this lost pipe! (inch an 1/4 will not fit past it ) So my next question is, the water starts around 10 feet down. Can I drop only to 25 feet max from surface of lawn or surface of water? in other words can I drop the 3/4 down 30 feet from the ground level? I know with my surface pump this is physics limit, but I was unsure if I have to cut it at 25 from ground level.

And if I use 3/4" will this cause the pump to fail? I may be able to fit two 3/4 pipes past the stuck steel pipe and then tie them in before the pump intake.


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Here is my first test with one 3/4" pipe down 30 feet..so far so good we have water!


Here is the idea to add two 3/4 pipes to increase flow rate but I'm a little unclear about how deep these can be. I'm at about sea level and the water starts about 3 feet down in wet season.

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The pump suction limits are to the water level not to the bottom of the pipe. The pipe can go to the bottom of the well. However once the water level drops below about 30 feet no amount of suction will pull it up.
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The pump suction limits are to the water level not to the bottom of the pipe. The pipe can go to the bottom of the well. However once the water level drops below about 30 feet no amount of suction will pull it up.
That was the part I didn't understand. I think I got it now. I was thinking it was the length of pipe going down. I've read up on a few people with similar probs it's amazing how many time the solution is to "go around" the problem. (that lost broken pipe)

I was also told that if I sink that pipe down 30 feet into the well I should not get the drawdown, sucking air I had a 21 feet.
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OK I finally had time to put this together. I added another 3/4 down pipe and funny thing is I think I speared the steel pipe. That PVC was hot when I put it in the casing and as I went past 20 feet it got resistance. I thought it may have been in between the steel pipe, and the first 3/4 pipe. So I pushed harder. It went down another 8 feet to about 28 feet and could go no further. And It won't come back up... I figure it got cold and expanded inside that steel pipe! The reason I thought that is that the other 3/4 pipe is totally free and able to move about at 30 feet.

So I proceeded and glued it all in. Primed her up and fired it up. After about 30 second I had water! I fired up the zone and it works! Not the best GPM but enough and no longer is it drawing down and sucking air causing the on/off action for the last decade. My sprinklers are staying on. Here's some images. PS, this pump appears to be a GE 3/4 HP. Would I be advised to modify this system or not change what's workin?


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As long as it is working satisfactory, Do not mess with it.

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