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Old 01-23-2018, 06:43 PM   #1
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One whole house water filter not enough?


Just bought a house and inherited an AquaPure AP101T whole house filter and a Powerline water softener

House has a private well and 2.5 baths. Knowing nothing about water filters, I thought the current AquaPure filter cartridge looked very old (brown, etc). So I replaced the filter with a brand new, bright white filter. Within ten minutes of water running, the new filter was already orange! I could see the orange particles swirling around the filter and getting caught. I've attached a picture of the 10-minute-old filter in the housing next to an unused filter. Is this normal? Do I need run more filters in succession? I don't really have any idea what the softener is doing in terms of filtering. But seems this AquaPure filter is gonna last a week rather than 6 months.

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It looks like your water has a high iron content. You can get test kits at most hardware/box stores or a more accurate test at private labs or possibly your health unit. Depending on the results, you may need an iron-specific filter unit. Residential softeners can only handle a certain level and it tends to foul the resin bed.
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I assume you got the water tested when you bought the house, what were the results?

Is there any green discoloration on the outside of your copper pipes?
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And there is the micron size of the pre filter... is the new one the same as the old one?
How was the water pressure before and after the filter change?

All microns are not the same...

Before we continue have the water tested!!!
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In some/many cases you may need several paths for your water and filter each depending upon need. Example, outside watering will need minimal or no filter. Toilets, just enough filtering to remove the iron. Showers and laundry maybe another step with drinking water the most filtered. But, as suggested it starts with knowing what is in the water.

I suspect the sellers replaced the filter just before you looked at the house so it didn't look too bad. If you have any type of buyer protection you might check to see if it will cover the cost of a proper filter arrangement. Sellers knew the current filter was not adequate.

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In some/many cases you may need several paths for your water and filter each depending upon need. Example, outside watering will need minimal or no filter. Toilets, just enough filtering to remove the iron. Showers and laundry maybe another step with drinking water the most filtered. But, as suggested it starts with knowing what is in the water.

I suspect the sellers replaced the filter just before you looked at the house so it didn't look too bad. If you have any type of buyer protection you might check to see if it will cover the cost of a proper filter arrangement. Sellers knew the current filter was not adequate.

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I'm not familiar with that type of legislation but it might be difficult to establish 'intent to deceive'. No doubt they gave the toilet bowls a good scrub too. When looking at houses in an area I wasn't familiar with, I always looked in the toilet tank and smelled the water, esp. from the hot tap.

Typical softener plumbing usually separates the outlet taps and sometimes the kitchen cold as some people can be sensitive to the elevated sodium level and I guess they figure most people will drink from the kitchen faucet.
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I used the AP101T's on the 3 - 1200 pound Manitowoc ice machines at work and the filters took 3 months to look that bad.

I agree with all, the OP needs some multiple staged filters with each one doing a specific filtration task. They will also help keep his water softener living longer, resulting in less problems with the WS control head and such. JMO
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Ok - a lot to respond to!

>> And there is the micron size of the pre filter... is the new one the same as the old one?

I have the old filter cartridge and I can check if maybe it's on the plastic ring. The new cartridge (that I just installed) is a different style and has no markings/plastic ring - it came with the house but had no packaging.

>> How was the water pressure before and after the filter change?

No noticeable change

>> I assume you got the water tested when you bought the house, what were the results?

I did not get a water test


>> Is there any green discoloration on the outside of your copper pipes?

No - but could that have been cleaned off by the seller?

>> Sellers knew the current filter was not adequate.

Sellers (flippers) did not change the filter shown above but they added the Powerline softener.

>> Before we continue have the water tested!!!

Do I need to pay someone like $2000 for this? Or can I test it myself?
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I don't know under what circumstances you would by a home where the water is supplied by a well, and not have it tested, but the first step is to get the water tested to see what you are dealing with.
Price of test is cheap.
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