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Old 03-08-2016, 01:46 PM   #1
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I have recently have had a new BBQ hookup installed a few days ago. I asked the gas fitter to run the gas line behind the stairs and into the crawlspace. He suggested it would be fine running it on the outside of the building and cheaper.

I know nothing about gas codes, but it seems that this may not be allowed... comments/suggestions?
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im scratching my head at what i'm looking at. Is that thin copper looking line for Natural Gas?
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Propane? that copper line?
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Yes, the copper line is natural gas.
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*disclaimer* I'm not a plumber but to plenty of my own gas work.

That being said, im not comfortable at all with that install. a NG copper gas line running on the ground? That just seems crazy to me.

Aside from that, that looks like a 3/8th water line to me. Did the plumber actually size for the required BTU's? I'm assuming the BBQ is somewhere around 50k BTU or so. depending on the Water column in your area, i couldn't imagine that copper line could support the demand. how far does that line run?

myself, i would run with black pipe in the house to a shut off, then come out of the house with CSST (make sure you bond the black pipe in the house to your ground bus) under the deck and up thru to the BBQ.. most likely a 1/2 to 3/4 line to supply the needed demand on the BBQ.
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Yes, the copper line is natural gas.
you got fked....that line is not code, nore will it support any btus for a bbq..natural gas needs to be piped in black pipe inside and galvanized pipe outside...looks like handyman jose did that hack job..csst is garbage..dont use it.. hire a licensed plumber to do the right job..
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Please at least tell me he put a shut off on it at the start of the line. i'd turn that line off.
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The UPC allows it as long as the H2S is below a given level. Whether it is legal or not in the OPs case would depend on his location. Local amendment might forbid it or levels of H2S in the local supply could rule it out.

Beyond that discussion, I don't like the installation. It looks like it's laid on the ground without support or attachment.

Let me guess, nobody pulled a permit.
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The UPC allows it as long as the H2S is below a given level. Whether it is legal or not in the OPs case would depend on his location. Local amendment might forbid it or levels of H2S in the local supply could rule it out.

Beyond that discussion, I don't like the installation. It looks like it's laid on the ground without support or attachment.

Let me guess, nobody pulled a permit.
how does code allow for undersized piping? the line should be a minimum of 3/4 inch..
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I never said it did. I do agree that it appears undersized.

I was responding primarily on the "copper" issue. Sorry that I used the word "it" rather than specifically saying "copper" in my first paragraph of my previous post.
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In Ohio our copper runs are underground. This is done to prevent puncture of the pipe. I assume exposed copper is ok in California? How does that handle the lightening strikes?

Dirwin was that installation inspected?

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That line does look undersized, if copper is permitted in your area i would still be worried about it being hit. I would be more comfortable with a black pipe run for a gas line.
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Thank you for inputs. I was more concerned it was a tripping hazard running under the stairs like that! Seems like there might be more to it though.. A reputable company did do it. Last minute the secretary slapped on the permit price since it was not on the invoice, concerning me that one was never pulled.

The gas line run from the meter to the BBQ is about 20' - 25'. I have the same size copper pipe for natural gas running to my hot-water tanks as well, not sure about the furnace.

I am located on Vancouver Island, Canada. I can post more pictures if it would help when I get home.. So I should definitely call them on it eh?
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I never said it did. I do agree that it appears undersized.

I was responding primarily on the "copper" issue. Sorry that I used the word "it" rather than specifically saying "copper" in my first paragraph of my previous post.
ok, thanxs for the clarification..
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