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Old 10-11-2017, 03:50 PM   #1
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Need to remove shower/tub valve


Hi there, I hope someone can help here. I need to remove this unit so I can replace the drywall/new surround. The problem is I can't get the end off, not too sure what comes off.
It's an old style Moen type, I have removed the handle, and behind that, there is a metal plate which rotates on/off that is the thing I can't remove.
Not sure if I can upload a picture here.
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You need more than one post to load photos.

A simple ok, will give you more posts, then give us a picture.

Many faucets have escutcheons that hold them to the wall, try to turn the trim covers by hand.

or hidden nuts, we really need to see.

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Thanks for the reply.
I looked everywhere for more screws, no luck.
see if i can get a picture up.
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Hi,
Could you help in how to upload a picture, just not seeing it
Thanks.
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Hi.
think i may of worked how to upload a picture.
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In the center of the stem, inside the round metal piece, is a phillips screw. Remove that and the 2 in the face plate and your done.....
Things might be tight due to scum and mineral build up
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Thanks,
Just another question, does the front plate where the phillips screw is comes
off or is it attached to the stem.
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It comes off. Then the 2 white fluted pieces come off. then chrome tube and plate can come off in one piece.

Tip- cover your drain if it is large enough for pieces to fall down and lose
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Hi there..
Got another problem. when i was removing the plate the stem broke,
is there anyway to remove the inside, with out removing the whole body.
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More work than you bargained for I'm sure but if it was my job to do, I'd cut away the drywall to give you access and replace that old valve body with something modern preferably with pressure balance valve and if you have little kids, a temperature control- either Delta or Moen. There are great videos on YouTube that will show you how to do all that so I won't go into detail to explain that process. But there are also pros on here that can help you out. I wonder if O' MIke still contributes. I haven't heard from him in a while, but he is a great source of information if he is still on here.
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Thanks for the reply.
Update. I did buy a new one, Moen one, I'm re-doing the batheroom so so that new drywall was not fastened to the wall just testing it, got a bit lucky there. Anyway, the old one was a female type and all the new are male.
so had to do a bit more plumbing to do.
All good now and the drywall still fits.
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Good call , replacing the old one.

It looked to me like it had been mangled beyond repair, and REPLACE was my next suggestion.

You will like the new better anyway, and wonder what was I thinking trying to use the old wore out one.


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Ive had pretty good luck removing mangled posi temp cartridges from moen valves. One thing in my bag of tricks that I havent had to try yet is heating up the brass where the cartridge sits to soften the rubber pieces and hopefully allow it to slide out easier. Maybe next time.
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