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Old 11-28-2016, 05:28 PM   #16
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Also, like hk noted, there is a white object by flapper as well. Could just be the camera, but something just looks wrong in that picture.
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flapper dog ears look like they are not connected to the bottom of the fill tube hinges like they should be.
That is a repair flapper. See the pivot points on the base of the overflow tube.
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That is a repair flapper. See the pivot points on the base of the overflow tube.


The black support and hinge on the flapper isn't connected to the ears on the overflow.
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No, it is a repair type flush valve.
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Hi folks,

I will try to answer all your questions which are really good.

But first, I'm posting a new photo which is much clearer because I held an additional bulb above the tank as I took another shot with my camera (rather than just relying on the recessed light above the toilet).

I hope the photo below is better.

Some of you asked me about a white object by the flapper. I think that was the flash from my camera because there's no such thing in the tank.
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First question is how much water remains in the tank when the flush valve (flapper) closes.
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I looked up your model and it's a 1.6 gallon AquaForce. The tank capacity should be larger than 1.6 gallons, so you should have water left in the tank after you flush it. The extra water in the tank accommodates the handle hold down feature for a larger flush. From your last picture, mechanically everything looks like it should, as far as I can tell.

Here's my idea. Let's check to see if your toilet is using all 1.6 gallons (6 liters) of water during it's flush cycle. Here's how...it's simple. You'll need a 2 liter soda bottle. Three (3) two liter bottles of water equals 1.585 gallons of water...the amount of water that your toilet uses during it's flush cycle.

This test will determine if the flapper is closing prematurely, reducing the efficiency of your toilet flush cycle.

  • Shut off the water to your toilet, so that it won't refill after you flush it.
  • Mark the current preflush water level.
  • Flush your toilet.
  • Once the flapper closes, using the soda bottle, refill the tank to the level you marked.
  • Once refilled, you should have used three two liter bottles of water to refill your toilet to the mark that you made.
If it takes less than three bottles of water to get to the mark, your toilet isn't using enough water to flush. If you used more than three soda bottles, then it's using a little more and that's not a problem as far as your issue is concerned. Of course this isn't rocket science...so close is okay.

If you decided to do this, let us know what you found.
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