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Old 12-20-2015, 01:11 AM   #1
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Our arsenic level in our water is high. Looking into reverse osmosis. Now, however, I learn that ro changes water to acidic. This kinda defeats the reason for installing the ro system. Arsenic causes cancer and so does acidic body condition. Everything I read says you do not want acidic water. And to make it worse, ro removes all mineral content from water.

How can get rid of arsenic while preserving the quality of my water?
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Every state has a state University that has an extension office that deals specifically with this area. They send you test bottles and a mail back kit. When they send you the results, it will state on there, what you need to do to correct the problem. The state Health departments also handle the testing and can shut a well down, if the contamination levels are far higher than what can be removed, if at all.

Any Arsenic in ground water, is not good for the body. You are talking about a very expensive system with a lot of upkeep, to make sure that the levels are kept below the levels that can cause cancer or even death. Average cost can run around $1500, just for the Reverse Osmosis system.

"In the United States small "under the sink" units have been used to remove arsenic from drinking water. This option is called "point of use" treatment. The most common types of domestic treatment use the technologies of adsorption (using media such as Bayoxide E33, GFH, or titanium dioxide) or reverse osmosis. Ion exchange and activated alumina have been considered but not commonly used.

Chaff-based filters have been reported to reduce the arsenic content of water to 3 microgram/litre. This is especially important in areas where the potable water is provided by filtering the water extracted from the underground aquifer."

This Ohio's memo on proper treatment and removal. All of the states are pretty much along the same guidelines. https://www.odh.ohio.gov/~/media/ODH...nt-removal.pdf



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Orange juice is more acidic then the water will be after RO. So is most soda/soft drinks.
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Read this.

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Change to a rainwater cistern. Our use bottled water for cooking and drinking needs. Our even install a storage tank and get water delivered. Remove any outside faucets for watering from your piping.
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Our arsenic level in our water is high. Looking into reverse osmosis. Now, however, I learn that ro changes water to acidic. This kinda defeats the reason for installing the ro system. Arsenic causes cancer and so does acidic body condition. Everything I read says you do not want acidic water. And to make it worse, ro removes all mineral content from water.

How can get rid of arsenic while preserving the quality of my water?
Just what is the level of Arsenic?

RO will only remove one form of Arsenic but not both.

And what about the arsenic that is in food and drink that one buys at the store?
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Just what is the level of Arsenic?

RO will only remove one form of Arsenic but not both.

And what about the arsenic that is in food and drink that one buys at the store?
Are you suggesting that they shouldn't care about the high arsenic in the water? Not sure what you are saying.

This gives advice in regard to the arsenic in food and says what is being done in the US. http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/n...beer/index.htm

It's a very frustrating and frightening thing to know that your water is contaminated.

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Are you suggesting that they shouldn't care about the high arsenic in the water? Not sure what you are saying.

This gives advice in regard to the arsenic in food and says what is being done in the US. http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/n...beer/index.htm

It's a very frustrating and frightening thing to know that your water is contaminated.
The idea is to question.

In the 80's arsenic was high if it was over 50ppb, now high is over 10ppm? why the new level?
Where are the studies?
Who was doing the studies?

When one looks at both the level of arsenic and the amount of water consumed is the level of 25ppb really that high?
If one removes it from the water but no change is made in buying from the store in food and drink has one really changed the level of arsenic intake?

I am saying do not take the government at their word on this or the hype that it is as bad as it said to be, ask , question are read and then repeat ..

Look at the cost of arsenic removal and tell me that there is not a larger driving force?
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Sofasurfer is questioning. Right now they are concerned with the arsenic in their water. I think that's enough for now :} Beenthere is right that acidity is a relative thing. I've never been more impressed by stomach acid strength than when my pet threw up on the piano bench & it dissolved the finish! When I worked in Critical Care, concern about blood acid-base balance was a constant whether it was an imbalance due to kidney problems or neuro affecting respiratory, etc.

So it seems that they need to know the type of arsenic, organic or inorganic and how efficient the RO is in getting rid of it. Possibly from pesticides... would be inorganic IMO. http://www.sciencedirect.com/science...1191640200262X

Then the need to know how acidic the water would be and if it would make a health difference.

We need to not just question but to do :} Someone has a quote like that on this chatroom.

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Although that article is somewhat dated, it gives a nice blend of science yet easily readable.

Policies are changed by lawsuits, I'm convinced. Akpsdvan, you may have helped to convince me to sue over my year with severely contaminated water (i.e E.Coli) with illness for me and my two dead pets. I had asked for the well-water to be tested but privately owned wells are not required to be tested, here. Although, it seems that a case could be made that if used as a public business, it should be regulated. The merit would lie in the damage done.

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