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Old 07-16-2015, 04:18 PM   #16
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I mean hell, if I don't even need that U trap thats coming off the disposal, why can't I just remove it. In this photo, remove whats red, take whats circled in green and flip it upside down and attach to the garbage disposal, and then add some sort of extension where the blue is to meet the two pieces?

You are the one who said you wanted to raise the trap higher and maximize the room under the sink. We are trying to that for you and have a system that drains properly.
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You do need an air admittance valve. A end outlet waste would be nice also for the disposal.
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Use the disposal kit- or end outlet as Ghost calls it, and add an AAV as described by rjniles. Perhaps replace the trap with a new one for a couple bucks more.
Here is an image of the AAV and associated piping. Combine this with the image of the waste kit I posted earlier and you got have it. (you don't need the chrome trap though- plastic will do)
Doing this will raise your drain assembly and will make your system more code compliant
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I can't hire a plumber. I don't have the money, and I rent.
Make sure you clear everything with your landlord first. Just a suggestion.
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You are the one who said you wanted to raise the trap higher and maximize the room under the sink. We are trying to that for you and have a system that drains properly.
Yes, and my solution would completely get rid of the trap and I wouldn't have a problem.... Would it not work? Early on I was told that the trap wasn't needed right there.

What is this going to cost me? If I need all the parts as outlined, and am being told I need a plumber to do it, flat out I cannot afford that. I could spend 20 bucks to fix this. But I can't spend 50, and definitely can't hire a plumber. With the first photos and talk of the disposal kit, I thought that meant ALL I needed to purchase was the disposal kit. Not redo the entire thing.

If I can afford to, and can physically do it myself, I'd love to redo the whole thing and make it code complaint, more functional, and more space. But if it requires a plumber thats completely out the window, because I can't afford it. And considering how my landlord has been with ongoing issues since I moved in months ago, even if I had a valid reason to need all of the plumbing replaced, they wouldn't get on it very quickly. And they'd do the cheapest and easiest possible repair, which may make my situation worse.
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Make sure you clear everything with your landlord first. Just a suggestion.
Thanks, I do have approval to do any improvements I want as long as I pay for them myself and don't expect reimbursement.
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Thanks, I do have approval to do any improvements I want as long as I pay for them myself and don't expect reimbursement.
Very nice of you to donate additional monies to your landlord while they sit back and laugh.
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I'm the one living here. I'm not interested in living in a dump. I can't afford a super nice house with everything I want. I can paint, I can redo cabinets myself, I can put nice hardware on them, install shelves, make a custom pot rack and lid rack, add pull out drawers to my cabinets, add a pantry, etc. Pick up cheap furniture and redo it myself. I have a lot more time than I do money, and know how to do things on the cheap. I'm disabled and work from home on a limited income. I ESPECIALLY don't want to be looking/living in a dump when I spend so much time here.

So can someone clarify... Is my simple idea not physically possible to do?

For buying the disposal kit, if I buy that do I need to completely redo the entire plumbing? Or can I buy that and put it in making use of the pieces I already have?

If I was to redo the entire thing, how much would all of the parts cost?
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Take out every thing above that threaded pipe coming out of the floor of the cabinet. Install a Schedule 40, 1.5" female adapter on the pipe from the floor. Glue in a length of 1.5" PVC pipe up to a Tee, from the top of the tee another length of pipe up to another female adapter. Screw in an Air Admittance Valve (AAV).

From the side of the tee a short piece of pipe and 1.5" trap adapter. From the trap adapter use the parts shown in eplumber's picture.

The purple stuff is not cement, it is cleaner. You will need cleaner and cement.

If the instructions are over your head, you need to hire a plumber.
This is a pretty accurate material list. Add the waste kit too.
Your area may use either ABS or PVC plastic pipe. Use whichever they stock. glue and primer or one step (hot) glue is needed for PVC. ABS only needs glue.

Here is a crude drawing of the finished job.
Parts will be around 30-40 bones- hope this helps
BTW- your disposer might need a little rotation to get the fittings to line up- not a big deal...
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$15 to $20---perhaps a bit more -

You need a 1 1/2" coupling .65
a T---$1.50
an AAV $8.00
perhaps 2 female threaded adapters-$1.39 each
A trap adapter--$1.39
a P-trap $4.00
the garbage disposer kit mentioned by Ghost and E-Plumber--?? $5.00
PVC cement and primer--$5.00
Stick of PVC---$3,60

You might need a tail piece and a tail piece washer--$4.00

This is about it-----you could reuse the old P-trap--but I suggest using all new if you can swing it---
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You are in good hands----E-Plumber made a nice drawing--
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Thanks guys, thats really helpful.

What exactly is not up to code? If its not up to code, I'm wondering if I claim that and that its leaking (it actually WAS leaking the other day but I fixed it, some stuff just wasn't lined up before screwed together). plus the damage thats already to the base of the cabinet from previous leaking... I can give the parts receipt to my landlord and take it out of rent. I'd need to present exactly what isn't up to code though I'm sure.

And one last thing, so my idea is NOT physically possible? is that correct?
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Hey, in the drawing, the horizontal line across with the AAV.... If thats supposed to be the disposal kit, how exactly does that work since the kit has 3 ends of pipe not 4? Maybe you could put the disposal kit portion of the drawing a different color so I can better understand how everything is fitting together?
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Red square = AAV
Blue rectangle = waste kit
You need to build the black pipe section too
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Ok that makes much more sense, thanks!

About building the black pipe section, but what about reusing whats already there?

And I didn't get the answer about whats not up to code right now? I was wrong, I didn't fix it from not leaking. I thought it was just leaking because things hadn't been lined up properly before screwed together, but its still leaking so it was more than that. I put in a maintenance request, so if I can also prove its not up to code maybe I can get them to do it all.
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