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Old 03-22-2016, 12:21 PM   #1
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Icemaker install - no access to copper pipe


I want to add a line for my new fridge ice maker from the kitchen sink. Under the sink, there is copper pipe extending from the drywall only about 1/2", where it meets the shutoff valve. Without cutting the drywall open, is there a secure and legal way to do this?
Removing the the shutoff valve means shutting off the water for my whole building, which includes 5 other units. Can I add some kind of tee after the shutoff valve? Then the sink and ice maker would share one valve, but that seems fine to me.
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There are adapters that fit over the copper pipe, than once secured it will puncture the copper pipe allowing the water to flow into you fridge line, I'm not sure what it's called though. I think it comes in a kit
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I think you're talking about a saddle valve. There is not enough room to install one on the copper pipe here. Also, from what I've read they are prone to leak, and maybe against code. I live in Los Angeles, but I can't find anything specific about saddle valves in the local code.
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Can I add some kind of tee after the shutoff valve? Then the sink and ice maker would share one valve, but that seems fine to me.

Yes, you can do that.
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I would tee it after the existing valve, then add a valve on the the line to the fridge. That way you can shut it off, if needed, without impacting the water supply to the sink.
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There are shut-offs available that allow for you to feed different downstream items.
One example:
http://www.lowes.com/pd_272815-143-K...d=3191041&pl=1
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^^THAT^^ is the best way to go.
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Now that I think about it, if I ever replace the fridge with a non-ice making one, it would be great to have separate valves. So I think I'll do a tee and two valves.


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No need to remove existing valve. Google ice maker tee.
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I tried looking for icemaker tees, but can't find any the right size. I'm surprised this is so difficult.
https://www.plumbingsupply.com/quick-tee-adapter.html
These products sound great. But I need 1/2 comp x 1/2 comp x 1/4 comp, and that doesn't seem to be an option.


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I tried looking for icemaker tees, but can't find any the right size. I'm surprised this is so difficult.
https://www.plumbingsupply.com/quick-tee-adapter.html
These products sound great. But I need 1/2 comp x 1/2 comp x 1/4 comp, and that doesn't seem to be an option.


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That is a weird size, most kitchen faucet stops (shutof valve) are 3/8" Show us a picture of the stop under your sink,
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Yes the saddle valve is what i was talking about, I didn't realize they were prone to leaking, but if it wont fit for your setup than it doesn't matter. definitely provide a picture so we can better help you.
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Oops, my mistake. The shutoff valve is actually 1/2" MIP. Here's a photo. So I'm looking for a tee with 1/2" FIP inlet, 1/2" MIP outlet, and valved 1/4" compression outlet.
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Would something like this work? it's all i can find when i research it:

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Homewerks...3C-Z/203444236
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Your valve looks like 1/2 compression output not MIP. The tee you linked in post 14 should do it. You could also add another stop on the 1\4 port.
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