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Old 11-18-2015, 05:12 PM   #46
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I thought it was fine but you never know.

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  • Medium-bodied blue cement for use on all schedules and classes of PVC pipe and fittings up to 6” diameter with interference fit.
  • LO-V.O.C. Solvent Cement meets California South Coast Air Quality Management District (SCAQMD) 1168/316A or BAAQMD Method 40 and various environmental requirements
  • Very fast-setting “Hot” cement formulated for wet conditions and/or quick pressurization and fast installation.
  • Recommended for pool, irrigation, potable water, pressure pipe, conduit and DWV.
  • Recommended application temperature 40°F to 110°F / 4°C to 43°C.
  • No primer needed on non-pressure DWV, up through 6” diameter where local codes permit.
  • Meets ASTM D-2564.
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Old 11-18-2015, 05:17 PM   #47
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But at the same time our house in Tennessee. The plumbers there use the orange CPVC without using cleaner! Never heard of that one!

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I thought it was fine but you never know.

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  • Medium-bodied blue cement for use on all schedules and classes of PVC pipe and fittings up to 6” diameter with interference fit.
  • LO-V.O.C. Solvent Cement meets California South Coast Air Quality Management District (SCAQMD) 1168/316A or BAAQMD Method 40 and various environmental requirements
  • Very fast-setting “Hot” cement formulated for wet conditions and/or quick pressurization and fast installation.
  • Recommended for pool, irrigation, potable water, pressure pipe, conduit and DWV.
  • Recommended application temperature 40°F to 110°F / 4°C to 43°C.
  • No primer needed on non-pressure DWV, up through 6” diameter where local codes permit.
  • Meets ASTM D-2564.
705.14.2 Solvent cementing. Joint surfaces shall be clean and free from moisture. A primer that conforms to ASTM F 656 shall be applied. Solvent cement conforming to ASTM D 2564, CSA B 137.3, CSA B 181.2 or CSA B 182.1 shall be applied to all joint surfaces. The joint shall be made while the cement is wet and shall be in accordance with ASTM D 2855. Solvent-cement joints shall be permitted above or below ground.

Your good under IPC. I wish more inspectors actually used the plumbing code. Please be aware that this section also calls for primer to be used. The code overrules the manufacturer recommendation because it is stricter.

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Old 11-19-2015, 06:02 PM   #49
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But at the same time our house in Tennessee. The plumbers there use the orange CPVC without using cleaner! Never heard of that one!

Walt

Make sure they used the Oatey one step glue walt. Usually the bright orange requires a primer. The one step is yellow. You need to check the can and make sure it says one step on it.

Oatey makes one orange type that is a one step glue... I guess they just want to confuse things.
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I was in the USN. By the way. My sea tour was oceanographic survey ships I was an Electronics tech assigned as a separate entity to keep the survey towers in operation. We were living in tents on islands or continents for about 6 month tours. I have visited Kenya, Somalia, Panama, The islands off the coast of Panama. The Indonesian islands, Australia, Singapore, and briefly Japan. At the time they were just starting the GPS Satellite program so we also participated in that testing. The charts were made for general shipping and submarine use.

I forgot the Philippines my bad was there also.

I pretty much came to the conclusion that I was blessed to be born in the states. But overall it was an experience that I will never regret.


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Sounds like you were on a fine vacation for all those years. And yes, after being places outside of the US I know what you mean! God Bless the US!!!

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this stuff they use on regular white PVC

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The one in your picture needs a primer. The one below says one step on the label of the can.
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Ghostmaker the PI is no longer how you remember it. We have friends over there, working as a U.S. contractor. The kids love it over there.

My dad was on Johnston Island, when he was in the Air Force working on the Elephant Cages. They would work all night, then come morning they would go out to catch Tiger Sharks, while hanging out on what little bit of beach there was to relax and drink some beers after a long night.



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Were cool with it as long as the glue meets the required standard.
We call it a one step glue and is allowed on DWV
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I stand corrected then. I wouldn't have thought you could use CPVC glue on PVC.


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I stand corrected then. I wouldn't have thought you could use CPVC glue on PVC.


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I'm confused or I missed something. CPVC is not for PVC- not approved here anyways.
But there are 1 step glues for both types of material- which we do accept.

http://www.oatey.com/products/plasti...-yellow-cement

http://www.homedepot.com/p/Oatey-Rai...8933/100342516
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That's alright, they confused me too first time I saw them do it. They use the orange CPVC for putting together schedule 40 PVC cause they say they don't have to clean the pipe. No purple, no nothing, just smear on the orange and put them together. I'm pretty sure that is the case. I'm here at our New Jersey home but when I get back down to Tennessee I will send you a picture of the pipe with orange all over it. Now I don't know about all of Tennessee, just our county. Grundy county has no building codes or building inspectors. Anything goes! I thing the only thing the plumbing inspector concerned himself with was the septic system. I had to get the deluxe septic cause I am with in 100 feet of a creek. I have a pump up from the tanks to the top of the hill to the field couple hundred feet away from the creek. I paid 3,500 for the extra tank and plumbing and motor. So you can guess what a regular system looks like. At the same time, the tanks leak!. The builder/electrician/plumber ran plastic grey 1/2 inch pipe out to the septic control center, or so I thought. What he really did was run direct burial wire in the plastic pipe down the side of the building but then ran the wire through the dirt at a depth of 3 inches and then when he got to the post that holds the control box he put it back in plastic. I found this months after we moved in and had to dig it down and put everything in plastic pipe. As I dug past the tanks they seeped raw sewage. Stunk to high heaven and ground saturated. I got stories you wouldn't believe. I've done a few posts already because I can't believe what I see them do.


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Cpvc glue cannot be used on DWV. I assumed you were talking about the CPVC water lines. Man I must be getting senile.
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Hi All, just a follow up post. So I had to get in a licensed plumber who I helped remove every stinking piece of waste pipe in the basement. Replaced and rerouted and updated to satisfy code. Had to get permit, and inspections.But because the inspector seemed to not like homeowners working on their own plumbing he would not come and inspect unless the plumber was there. Plus he at first wanted a "water test" of the waste lines. Wanted plumber to seal off first floor drains so the vent lines for the whole house could be filled with water at the second floor level to see if the pipe leaked in the basement! After much discussion he relented and said that he would accept a smoke test instead to satisfy himself that the pipes were glued properly. I had to run around and find smoke bombs, ( who use smoke bombs anymore?) and rig up a way to get the smoke in and keep it in without smoking up the whole house. On the day of the test he came only after he knew the plumber who had to take the day off from another job would be available for the test. I could NOT do it by myself. The inspector went in I put the lit smoke bomb into the fixture I made up and the inspector walked through the basement keeping the plumber close to him and then signed the papers passing the plumbing and promptly left. What a pain.

But it was done. We sold the house and we are in Tennessee.

Thanks everyone for all the help.

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