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Old 06-18-2015, 04:56 AM   #1
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gurgling sound with new check valve


I did some work to my basement sump discharge. First I installed a new check valve. Not because the old was faulty, just for preventive measures. I have also redone the plumbing to the discharge lines on the exterior of the house. Many of the existing lines were not glued together and was simply not down far enough below ground. Additionally to that I added about 10 feet and ended it with a pop up emitter.

Now with all that work done I am getting a gurgling sound soon after the sump pump kicks off. Where may I of gone wrong, could ot be a faulty check valve?
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A picture would help---but it sounds like you have piped this wrong.

A sump discharge must be a 'free fall' drain when it leaves the house.

If the drain is a continous sealed pipe---the water will drain like a siphon and pull water and air through the pump--causing the backflow valve to chatter.

And---the first time the underground pipe freezes---your pump will blow the piping apart--usually in the basement--causing serious damage.

Pictures will help.
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Here is down in the basement


This is where it discharges. I added the bubbler plot just to make it look a little cleaner instead of having a pipe sticking out. Also this also has a weep hole on the bottom and the bottom is filled with about 100 pounds of gravel for it to drain.
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Nice job. Did you drill a 1/4 hole through the pipe right above the sump pump? This relieves the pressure below the check valve.


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How about a picture where the pipe exits the house and falls into the underground drain.
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I will get a photo of how it exits the house. My guess It is plumbed and does not properly have fall to it. I was told though it was ok for it to pump uphill, is this not correct?

I do see your point regarding it during the winter. What would my options be if it did discharge without a fall?
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You cut your pipe and raise it so where it exits the house it is pitched to the outside. Did you drill the weep hole as shown on the above illustration?
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Yes I just drilled a 1/4" weep hole.

Here is what it looks like outside. The pop up bubbler is between the farthest fence post and the small green electric post. (Dont mind our messy neighbors yard)

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If you did all that sounds like your check valve is defective..
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Since I have put a weep hole in it, water sprays out of the hole making a big mess now.
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Yes I just drilled a 1/4" weep hole.

Here is what it looks like outside. The pop up bubbler is between the farthest fence post and the small green electric post. (Dont mind our messy neighbors yard)

As I thought---dangerously wrong for an area that freezes--

You need to make a free fall drain---the ground pipe must be seperated from the house piping---with an open air gap---like a faucet pouring into a sink.

Ground drain pipe is usually flaired to 3" using a bell deducer---this is the receptor---the house piping is placed above that with an air gap--so if the ground pipe fills with ice the sump will overflow the receptor ,but not clog.

The 'bubbler' is dandy to have in the summer---but creates a trap that will leave water in the pipe at all times--and a plug of ice in the winter.

A 3 or 4inch ground pipe draining to daylignt is ideal---empties completely--no ice plug.
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The weep hole is suppose to be in the sump above the pump.
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Correct me if im wrong or just completly over thinking it.

If it is well below freezing outside, the sump wouldn't even be running correct? Since its below freezing outside the ground also will be frozen since it is usually significantly lower in temperature.

Once the ground starts to un-thaw the air temperature would probably been above freezing longer and thus the water in the pipes not frozen?

Im not trying to argue, just thinking things.


BTW- I did drill the hole in the pipe between the pump and check valve.
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It happens--and I have seen some real messes--

Surely you have had a day or two of rain and then had a cold spell with freezing--

It sure happens here----rain turning into snow and freezing at night---

warm day freezing night---I'm in Illinois--it happens here a lot.
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yea makes sense!

Well I guess the work I did was a fail! I just wanted to make it a clean look without the pipe sticking out of the ground! I will fix it before winter I guess
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