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Old 04-24-2019, 09:46 PM   #46
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I mentioned the plasma toilet thing to my husband, and how I'd been chatting in this thread.

He laughed and recommended this stuff - https://www.amazon.com/s?k=toilet+pa...l_4xte5gwux5_e

It's apparently what they use as "wet wipes" in RV's where you can't even use regular TP or it'll clog everything up. Mechanics...
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I mentioned the plasma toilet thing to my husband, and how I'd been chatting in this thread.

He laughed and recommended this stuff - https://www.amazon.com/s?k=toilet+pa...l_4xte5gwux5_e

It's apparently what they use as "wet wipes" in RV's where you can't even use regular TP or it'll clog everything up. Mechanics...
"I have been RVing about 40 years with 7 different rigs. The answer is almost the same as septic systems and city plumbing with one exception. You must use RV toilet paper only nothing else. "
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The real danger of flushing wipes is the potential to clog a drain field. Unlike a septic tank that could be pumped, drain field repair is expensive and may involve replacement altogether.

Just had a lift tank and failed drain field installed last summer in a rental. Price tag $9600.00.


For my piece of mind, $9600 buys a lot of diaper pails and liners!


In my own system and what I tell my tenants, the only thing that gets flushed is TP,PP, and POOH.....period.
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Old 05-01-2019, 01:14 PM   #49
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I remember Red Fox would end his talks with a closing phrase that I never forgot “Ladies and gentleman WASH YOUR ASS.” It´s always worked for me.
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In small boats and many overseas countries where plugged up toilets are a big problem it is customary to have a small trash can by the toilet for even toilet tissue to go into.
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Yeah so I've read and read that you're not supposed to flush wet wipes with a septic system.

Problem is...they aren't distinguishing aerobic from anaerobic, and they aren't considering brand design and performance. The answer is just "no". Naturally...I have questions.

Scott and Cottonelle both offer wipes that are labeled "septic safe" (as if all septics are the same) like so many brands out there. Except, Scott and Cottonelle were actually tested for performance and both broke down completely in water in 24 hours. Other brands did not.

So...what's the deal with flushable wipes that really do break down in water like that? Still a no-no? For aerobic systems?

I gotta wipe man...I just gotta. Regular ole TP breaks apart before I can get it to the target area...

Flushable and non-flushable wipes are a bad idea for any septic system and any municipal sewer system. Having worked for a 6.5 MGD Public Owned Treatment Works and later for a state agency inspecting municipal wastewater treatment systems, many breakdowns in conveyance and pumping equipment are attributed to "rags" a.k.a wipes fouling up the equipment. The more breakdowns in operation, the more your sewer bill will cost. More wipes flushed down the commode, the more often you'll need to pump out your septic tank. Even if the wipe breaks down, it will become suspended solids in the septage and flow into the drain field. Too much loading of suspended solids in the drain field can overload the field and require replacement costing much $$$$+. I live in a home on a septic system which has been pumped three times since 1994. The first two times, there was a foot or more paper layer above the septage. The third time, no paper layer because I had requested my wife and daughter to cease flushing wipes. All wipes go into a trash bag which can be emptied daily. If you gotta wipe but are concerned about flushing wipes, get a bidet.
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Many years ago the wife and I took a cruise that included a stop at Venice. While shopping I went to the men's room. There I notice a sign saying to put paper in a trash container. I wondered why (I didn't use any paper).
Later, we of course, took the mandatory gondola ride. Wasn't very romantic. They put as many people as they could in a long narrow boat. The moon wasn't up, they stopped at dark and if the moon had been up you couldn't have seen it anyway. And the gondolier didn't serenade us.

As we were riding along I notice pipes coming of the buildings with water flowing out. The I understood the paper thing. That was their sewage system.

Some one in the back of the boat (He must have though like me), wondered out loud.

Him, "I wonder where their sewer system is?"
Me, "You are riding in it"
Him, "Oh my God, I've been dragging my hand in it"
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Why not use the toilet paper first.

Then use the wipe to get what you can't with the toilet paper.

Then throw the wipe in the trash, make sure the can has a lid and you empty it often.
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" You sound a little deranged dude, just use charmin and forget about it. Your making to much out of a stupid crap question"
I know I'm old, but I was raised on, "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all." I'm not saying I don't occasionally think some posts are silly or unnecessary but, when someone makes a personal attack on a poster simply because their opinion is different, or because they know less than someone else, the one who loses respect in my eyes is the bully, not the target.

There's a huge difference between starting a discussion because you disagree with someone's opinion and attacking them as a person (name-calling, mocking their post, ridiculing their intelligence, etc.). In a discussion, you state your opinion and provide explanations for your reasoning while the other person listens to you and considers whether you might be right. Then, they answer and you listen and consider their point of view. Years ago, it was called civil discourse and it seems to have become extinct in our culture. At the end of a discussion, you may still disagree, but hopefully there will have been a lot more information exchanged, giving both parties food for thought, and a lot less anger and hurt feelings.

There’s so much alarm about bullying in schools. Where do we think the kids learned it from?
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Flushable and non-flushable wipes are a bad idea for any septic system and any municipal sewer system. Having worked for a 6.5 MGD Public Owned Treatment Works and later for a state agency inspecting municipal wastewater treatment systems, many breakdowns in conveyance and pumping equipment are attributed to "rags" a.k.a wipes fouling up the equipment. The more breakdowns in operation, the more your sewer bill will cost. More wipes flushed down the commode, the more often you'll need to pump out your septic tank. Even if the wipe breaks down, it will become suspended solids in the septage and flow into the drain field. Too much loading of suspended solids in the drain field can overload the field and require replacement costing much $$$$+. I live in a home on a septic system which has been pumped three times since 1994. The first two times, there was a foot or more paper layer above the septage. The third time, no paper layer because I had requested my wife and daughter to cease flushing wipes. All wipes go into a trash bag which can be emptied daily. If you gotta wipe but are concerned about flushing wipes, get a bidet.
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I know I'm old, but I was raised on, "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all." I'm not saying I don't occasionally think some posts are silly or unnecessary but, when someone makes a personal attack on a poster simply because their opinion is different, or because they know less than someone else, the one who loses respect in my eyes is the bully, not the target.

There's a huge difference between starting a discussion because you disagree with someone's opinion and attacking them as a person (name-calling, mocking their post, ridiculing their intelligence, etc.). In a discussion, you state your opinion and provide explanations for your reasoning while the other person listens to you and considers whether you might be right. Then, they answer and you listen and consider their point of view. Years ago, it was called civil discourse and it seems to have become extinct in our culture. At the end of a discussion, you may still disagree, but hopefully there will have been a lot more information exchanged, giving both parties food for thought, and a lot less anger and hurt feelings.

There’s so much alarm about bullying in schools. Where do we think the kids learned it from?
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I was recently reading in the local paper of a couple of citizen's groups that called for the Canadian government to fine the manufactures for $230 million for the additional maintenance costs on municipal sewer systems. The fines could be levied under existing laws for labeling and truth in advertising according to these groups (they feel that labeling the wipes as flushable is false advertising). The article's authors talked to the City's chief engineer who is of the opinion that there is no such thing as a flushable wipe, they don't break down like TP, and that our city does indeed spend good money to unclog flushable wipes from the sewer system.
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I know I'm old, but I was raised on, "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all." I'm not saying I don't occasionally think some posts are silly or unnecessary but, when someone makes a personal attack on a poster simply because their opinion is different, or because they know less than someone else, the one who loses respect in my eyes is the bully, not the target.

There's a huge difference between starting a discussion because you disagree with someone's opinion and attacking them as a person (name-calling, mocking their post, ridiculing their intelligence, etc.). In a discussion, you state your opinion and provide explanations for your reasoning while the other person listens to you and considers whether you might be right. Then, they answer and you listen and consider their point of view. Years ago, it was called civil discourse and it seems to have become extinct in our culture. At the end of a discussion, you may still disagree, but hopefully there will have been a lot more information exchanged, giving both parties food for thought, and a lot less anger and hurt feelings.

There’s so much alarm about bullying in schools. Where do we think the kids learned it from?

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"Little late to the party Kasey, we weren't all raised the same. Read all the posts don't cherry pick"
Who are you quoting with the quotation marks?
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The OP asked for advice on wipes & septic systems. That's been answered.

No one, unless they are potty-training, should be telling another person how to wipe.

Sorry, Yodaman, in all fairness, I have to go there, I'll be mild.

People have food intolerances that cause continuous diarrhea, eat too hot of chili, have hemorrhoids, fistulas from pregnancy & the like, cancer, parasites, sticky poop, religious requirements, hygiene preferences, injured arms, neck, etc. Poop contains enzymes that eat away at skin, ask any baby with diaper rash.

If you live long enough you will have one of the above.
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