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Old 04-23-2019, 02:43 PM   #16
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The bidet is actually the best option. It may help to consider, um...medical issues let's say, that could create problems that wet tissue material works better with than dry tissue.

It's not just an ick factor, although I proudly stand on that imperative, alone, lol. It's cleaner.

You remember that old feminine product commercial back in the 80's with Mother and daughter..."Mom, sometimes I just don't feel fresh...". Well, wipes make you feel fresh, my friend. It's not just for women anymore!
" You sound a little deranged dude, just use charmin and forget about it. Your making to much out of a stupid crap question"
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An alternative some folks use on boats with poorly designed or poorly maintained waste systems is to dispose of the paper (or wipes) in a separate, sealable bag, like a zip-lock.
The toilets on boats (short of a cruise ship) are more complex. Even the best of them can choke on something that people flush at home. Toilets located below the waterline are worse than those above the water-line.

You should be using marine or marine/rv toilet paper. It breaks down quicker than the household type.
The ziplocks are a good idea, I also provided Brown paper bags that you could put the ziplock bag in. (Some people may be embarrassed by objects left in see-thru bags.)

My instructions on how to flush the toilet (they are often different than house types) always include an instruction of “ other than the paper I provide, nothing goes in there unless you swallowed it first”.

If you think unclogging or pulling a toilet is a crappy job, you need to try it on a boat with big swells running.
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" You sound a little deranged dude, just use charmin and forget about it. Your making to much out of a stupid crap question"
Why do people have to get rude and insulting when someone else disagrees with them?


I use wet wipes, I didn't always, but I do now. In fact, at one time I used an outhouse and a Sears catalog. I don't use wet wipe because I want to, I use them because I need to. Things change, its called aging. And "DUDE" if you are lucky it will happen to you too.

Come back in 30 or 40 years and tell me how you feel about things then.
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Many younger people don’t realize that there was a time (and/or places), where calling someone “Dude” was liable to get them knocked on their ass.
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Certainly not arguing against those who need to use 'flushable wipes' but the 'downstream' impact is, at best, unclear. Two different perspectives:


https://www.chemistryworld.com/news/...017594.article



https://www.acsh.org/news/2018/05/16...le-wipes-12971
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I replaced a sewage ejector pump for a friend that used those wipes. Clogged up the pump and burned out the motor. That pump cost almost $2K
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That must be one hell of a good friend. I've changed my own ejector pump probably four times since I've owned this house. The first two were due to unreliable pumps from the same manufacturer, Stevens Pump Co. Learned my lesson after they each lasted about four years.

Anyway, it is a disgusting job, especially with the sump pit full of water and everything else you flush down a toilet. If I think about it enough I can almost make myself gag.
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Happy medium solution. Regular TP in the toilet and a trash can for your wet wipes and tampax. Annoying perhaps, but way better than clogged pipes.

I'm a friend to the wet wipes, much cleaner feeling. Ass-happy.
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Why do people have to get rude and insulting when someone else disagrees with them?


I use wet wipes, I didn't always, but I do now. In fact, at one time I used an outhouse and a Sears catalog. I don't use wet wipe because I want to, I use them because I need to. Things change, its called aging. And "DUDE" if you are lucky it will happen to you too.

Come back in 30 or 40 years and tell me how you feel about things then.
" It's not the disagreement with my opinion. It"s so many people have said nothing but waste and toilet paper. How many ways can people answer. i personally have nothing against anyone's bathroom habits. To each their own. I hope I can come back in 30 to 40 years I am 71, Charmin dude"
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" It's not the disagreement with my opinion. It"s so many people have said nothing but waste and toilet paper. How many ways can people answer. i personally have nothing against anyone's bathroom habits. To each their own. I hope I can come back in 30 to 40 years I am 71, Charmin dude"
Right, people have said waste and toilet paper and nothing else - and those are people who know NOTHING but how to parrot what they've heard, or didn't read what I asked. I didn't ask for people to randomly pop in and repeat the same mantra again and again...especially when I did that for them in my original post, already.

This thread is not for you. Apparently. This thread is for people who understand the differences in materials in wipes and understand the differences in septic systems and know something about it.

You know none of this at all. You contribute nothing but old and boring retread - what I pointed out in my original post. If you don't know anything on the subject, why do you keep posting?
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It's not the disagreement with my opinion.
That statement is a direct contradiction of you response to timkoupe which I originally quoted.
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It"s so many people have said nothing but waste and toilet paper.
Sorry, but I find that statement incomprehensible. Maybe its typos or maybe its sentence structure but your concept is not being conveyed.
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As many ways as there are people.
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Charmin dude
Your continued use of insulting innuendo, even after it has been called to your attention, speaks volumes about you.
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Certainly not arguing against those who need to use 'flushable wipes' but the 'downstream' impact is, at best, unclear. Two different perspectives:


https://www.chemistryworld.com/news/...017594.article



https://www.acsh.org/news/2018/05/16...le-wipes-12971
Excellent articles, really. I had no idea women were flushing their products down the toilet on the regular, and I really, really had no idea people were actually pouring grease down their sink drains, wow.
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Update on Cottonelle Wipe Breakdown Test: It broke down....sort of. It became several pieces, but looks like would clog something, to me. Not impressed. Letting it sit for day 2.

I also put some TP in a glass of water this morning for TP Breakdown Test 2.

I'm not thinking wipe technology has arrived just yet for septic processing...
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Happy medium solution. Regular TP in the toilet and a trash can for your wet wipes and tampax.
I agree. The question is how do we get that to become the norm, the accepted and expected practice. For what it is worth, after this discussion, I intend to get such a container for my bathroom. Will the wife for her bathroom? I don't know.

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I had no idea women were flushing their products down the toilet on the regular, and I really, really had no idea people were actually pouring grease down their sink drains, wow.
Yes , people do that but not people on a septic systems. If they do they soon learn not to. Some septic systems have a grease trap, which is just another tank for the grease to settle before the septic tank. But you still didn't put grease or cooking oil down the drain. Try cleaning one of those out. In my day you simply got down in there with a bucket.


Thanks for the update on the wipe break down.
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I agree. The question is how do we get that to become the norm, the accepted and expected practice. For what it is worth, after this discussion, I intend to get such a container for my bathroom. Will the wife for her bathroom? I don't know.
This is what the wife and I have just about settled on here. It's the safest bet. My only concern is controlling odor, so we'll see how it goes. We have dogs too...they're so gross...we'll keep it in the sink cabinet, I think.
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A little off topic but I wouldn't expect the odor to be much of a problem. Simply because there won't be that much volume. Just my opinion but I don't think the cabinet will work. It needs to be convenient to the point of use. The real question will be how to dispose of the wipes after you have collected them. Fire, landfill?
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