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Old 10-01-2016, 12:12 PM   #1
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draining toilet - sometimes!


the toilet flap thing does not always close and let the tank fill up.
a plumber replaced it but if anything it is worse!
toilet is 13 years old.
suggestions welcome.
we have adjusted the chain so it is not to loose and not taut.
when it does not work a little jiggling of the chain makes it work.
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Water level is to high. Water level should be 1" below the top of the over flow tube. Present water level is right at the top of the over flow tube.
It is not that the flapper is leaking, it is that the fill valve is not shutting off in time and water is going down the over flow.
Adjust the water level by compressing the little clip on the float rod and pressing the float down about 1".

Person that replaced the flapper must not be much of a plumber to leave the water level set that high.

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Metal chains seem to catch/ball-up sometimes not allowing the flapper to seat.

I have better luck with the plastic chains that tend to float a little and follow the flapper down.
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please point out the over flow tube.
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Over flow tube is that tube in the center of the tank. The flapper is attached to the bottom of the over flow tube. That little black tube from the fill valve is attached to the top of the over flow tube. I down loaded your picture, enlarged it, and can see the water right at the top.

When you jiggle the handle, that disturbs the surface of the water and causes the float to turn the water off
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what has been happening is that after the tank drains it does not fill up again antil the handle is wiggled.
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Take a look and see why the flapper is not closing.... I'll bet your chain is tangling up.... sometimes you can ssolve that with adjusting the lever arm to a different angle.... and sometimes a plastic chain will help (as it floats down and seems to tangle less than a metal chain.)

Sometimes the chain is getting caught in some of the flapper .... and you can snip off the part it is being caught on.
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Thanks
We will keep an eye on the chain!
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Water level still needs to be adjusted.
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okay
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It appears to me that the chain is at about a 45 angle. Not normally seen at that aggressive angle, but if the water is flowing in via the fill valve and for certain the flapper isn't seating properly, try giving the chain more slack.
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that was an attempt to stop it tangling!
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If tangling persists, try weaving a couple of strands of multi strand copper wire through the chain links and secure the ends. Every other link may work. Experiment time. I've used zip ties on larger chain but none would be small enough for flapper chain.

Or try the plastic chain as mentioned.
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gee thanks for the tip
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If your flapper is plastic, try changing it with rubber.
Remove the chain and check each link. Each must work freely. Check the last links, on the flapper and on the push rod.
I think your chain is on the tight side.
Check the handle as well to ensure it is tight.
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