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Old 11-03-2016, 08:06 PM   #16
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You got a plumber to your house for $80??? You should be playing the lotto tonight, not asking if you got ripped off.

Yes of course you pay for travel time. The time spent going from job to job, is the boss just supposed to eat that cost?


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Truck charge is simply as it states. It's a small fee on every invoice.
The expense which should be a cost of doing business and should be covered in the hourly rate, is now paid for with a different fee. Nice way to get a free service van later, eh?

The waste company now has a $5.00 "Invoice Fee" every month. The invoice is a cost of doing business of course. Holy smoke!!!!

Gas company has a "Customer Fee" every month here. Nonsense!!

As for traveling time, if I was to do service for you and it took me an hour to drive to your place, if I couldn't collect this hour's labour, I wouldn't do the project. Why should I?

BTW, I don't do service calls, just letting you know how it works.

So again, yes, you got a good deal.
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I didn't get a receipt for this job. This was a cash job under the table, which I why I was surprised it was that expensive for that little time.
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I didn't get a receipt for this job. This was a cash job under the table, which I why I was surprised it was that expensive for that little time.
You mean, that cheap, don't you?
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No. I mean expensive. This plumber has done work for us in the past. He once installed an hour's worth of shut off valves (about 7) and asked 100$ cash.

The tradesmen (carpenters, plumbers, electricians) I usually call don't work using these travelling and truck fees, I know, I've used themin the past.

I once had my electrician upgrade my water heater disconnect from a fuse box to breaker box for 30$ (took him about 30 minutes).

None of these guys, including that plumber, work by the book and over the table, so when he tried to suddenly get all high and mighty on us and finally start charging like a pro, I was surprised. Maybe had he not burned my wood and given me a receipt I'd not have anything to say...
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$80 is very cheap for a plumber doing soldering work. It's a lot more expensive depending on where you live.

In Chicago, that job (assuming he didn't burn the wall like your plumber did) would cost several hundreds if you live in a high rise.

The min that a handyman charges here is $80 for an hour or less. Some handyman companies charge a min of 2 hours. Handymen can't do plumbing or electrical. Plumbing and electrical work require licensed plumbers and electricians. All workers must have licenses, necessary permits, insurance, yada yada.

In single family homes though, people can get away with paying handymen/unlicensed workers to do plumbing and electrical work under the table.

If your guy had been a real plumber, he wouldn't have burned your wall that badly. I've had a plumber do lots of copper soldering near the wall and behind the wall but never got my walls burned. Although, his assistant did leave a 1.5-inch scorch mark on my floor when he placed a still hot torch on bare floor because they didn't use a floor covering on the second day that they worked.

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No. I mean expensive. This plumber has done work for us in the past. He once installed an hour's worth of shut off valves (about 7) and asked 100$ cash.

The tradesmen (carpenters, plumbers, electricians) I usually call don't work using these travelling and truck fees, I know, I've used themin the past.

I once had my electrician upgrade my water heater disconnect from a fuse box to breaker box for 30$ (took him about 30 minutes).

None of these guys, including that plumber, work by the book and over the table, so when he tried to suddenly get all high and mighty on us and finally start charging like a pro, I was surprised. Maybe had he not burned my wood and given me a receipt I'd not have anything to say...


Good God, you're a cheap SOB. Plumber burned your wall and didn't give you a receipt? You get what you pay for.


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How do you know if someone is a "real plumber?" He said he's been a plumber his whole life. He had all the tools and parts to go with it.

Yup, you got me there, I'm cheap.
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You're complaining about an $80 bill from a plumber. You've said yourself you have a track record of hiring unlicensed, off the books tradesmen, as opposed to legit businesses, for what I can only assume is because of their cheap prices, since you brought it up their low rates.

So yea, doesn't take much to know that you're just a cheap SOB and got what you paid for. Get over it.


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How do you know if someone is a "real plumber?" He said he's been a plumber his whole life. He had all the tools and parts to go with it.

Yup, you got me there, I'm cheap.


You ask for their license number. You check his name and license number on your city's website (licenses, records).
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