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Old 11-21-2015, 04:35 PM   #16
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One thing I didn't read while skimming through. Do you have a p trap or drum trap on the tub?
If the latter then a plumber may be needed to replace the drum. I only ask this because you mentioned the house is 100 years old.
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Old 11-21-2015, 06:23 PM   #17
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I would buy a hand-cranked snake by Rigid. Wearing the proper PPE for eyes, face & hands, remove all the water in the tub. Then wait until water recedes past drain, remove drain cover, carefully insert head of wire snake into and past drain, then start cranking it. It's important to crank forward 75% of time, then 25% back [ie 40 cranks forward, 10 backwards, etc]. Do this until all of the snake is inside your pipes. Make sure you work it back-and-forth.

Once this is done, get the liquid gel drain-o, pour all of it down the drain if it goes or stop if it starts to top off at the drain....wait 30 minutes if it starts to drain, then pour hot as you can get 3-4 gal of water. If the drain-o does not go down at all, wait over night, but make sure you vent [open window] the room or turn-on exhaust/ceiling fan if you have one.

I cannot diagnose the timing of this w the plumbers installs, but if something when down the toilet flange during toilet install, your toilet more than likely would be backing-up too. How is it doing?

There is an answer, let's find it.

The toilet and the sink next to the tub are all fine. Toilet flushes well and sink water goes down with no problem. Just the tub, its a mystery ...thank you.
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The tub drains through a 'trap'--then into the main drain that the toilet uses--

If the toilet is flushing fine, then the tub line or the trap is clogged.

In the old days ,when your house was built, 'Drum traps' were uses---those have a removable cap so they can be cleaned out---after 100 years that cap is no longer removable--and a modern drain auger (snake) will not go through the drum.

You may need a plumber---you might be able to find and open the barrel trap---but that is not likely---look for an access panel behind the tub--
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The tub drains through a 'trap'--then into the main drain that the toilet uses--

If the toilet is flushing fine, then the tub line or the trap is clogged.

In the old days ,when your house was built, 'Drum traps' were uses---those have a removable cap so they can be cleaned out---after 100 years that cap is no longer removable--and a modern drain auger (snake) will not go through the drum.

You may need a plumber---you might be able to find and open the barrel trap---but that is not likely---look for an access panel behind the tub--
Ya know what Mike, under the new vanity there was a round thing on the floor with a cap on it and I believe the plumber mentioned something about it being a trap. In September we had a new sub floor/vanity/toilet put in and I think that they put the floor over the trap. I mean we never had problems before with anything so we told him to do that. BUT, if the trap should have stayed exposed wouldn't the plumber have known that? OMG we may need to have it all done over again ....I am sooooooo confused.....thanks for your input, by George I think we've gotit hmmm i'll keep ya posted
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One thing I didn't read while skimming through. Do you have a p trap or drum trap on the tub?
If the latter then a plumber may be needed to replace the drum. I only ask this because you mentioned the house is 100 years old.
There was a round thing on the floor next to the tub and I believe the plumber said it was a trap. but when we had a new subfloor put in they went over the trap....now what do we do?I mean this plumber was a young man so I guess he didn't know what a trap was for?????? one would think so though....I don't know what to do now ....this is going to be costly
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I mean this plumber was a young man so I guess he didn't know what a trap was for?????? one would think so though....I don't know what to do now ....this is going to be costly
Sounds like he knew, but perhaps he didn't explain it to you what is was.

Google drum trap and compare the images to yours. If they're the same then you need to remove it and replace with a p trap.

Home owners do this repair often, but first you need to verify that is what you have
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You might be better off opening up the ceiling below the trap/tub drain---if replaced, you can do it from below just as easily---------
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Sounds like he knew, but perhaps he didn't explain it to you what is was.

Google drum trap and compare the images to yours. If they're the same then you need to remove it and replace with a p trap.

Home owners do this repair often, but first you need to verify that is what you have
He explained what it was BUT, the old floor was over it and so when we had the new floor put down he did ask if we wanted to keep it exposed or have the new floor put over it and we chose to have the floor put over it grrrrrrrr....I googled and YES that is exactly what it looked like....now what do we do? we NEVER had this problem before or we would have told him to go around the trap and not over it. I wish he would have suggested a P trap these young ones make me nuts lol...thank you, now I need a stiff drink !! haha
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Here's a video on "How to remove a drum trap lid/cover".


Hope you have access to your plumbing from a basement or crawl-space....

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Here's a video on "How to remove a drum trap lid/cover".



Hope you have access to your plumbing from a basement or crawl-space....

good luck, tstex

Thank you. That is the problem it is on the second floor and there is no access. we will have to have the new floor torn up I guess to get to it again. I mean that is how we found it in the first place, when they tore up the old subfloor. cha ching cha ching, ...thank you for the video that was kind of you. calgon take me away !!
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I just wanted to thank everyone for your suggestions/advice. This is a job for the plumber I guess. Happy Thanksgiving to all and I hope you all have a Merry Christmas and a safe and happy New Year !! may 2016 be better for us all...HUGS!
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