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Old 09-22-2014, 02:00 PM   #1
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vinyl tile over hardwood floor???


Hi guys,
I have a half bath on the main floor that has hardwood flooring. We are remodeling it, and after we tore out the toilet, we found the hardwood floor underneath rotted, and concealed by the previous owner.

The rot stretches 2 feet each way.

I started ripping out with my hands it was so bad.

anyhow, I don't want hardwood in the bathroom anymore, as its too prone to rot/mold.

i am want to install those self sticking vinyl tiles, but should I rip out all the wood floor and install over the subfloor? or should i patch up the parts of the hardwood that i tore out, and install the tiles over it?

kind of undecided, but I know the second option will take a lot less time.
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All the old hardwood needs to go.
Easiest way to cut it out along the walls is with a Toe Kick saw, Google it.
Home Depot Rents them.
What happens next depends on what's under that hard wood and what condition it's in.
At a bare minimum it will need a layer of 1/4 underlayment rated plywood.
NOT Lauan!
The best and fastest way to install it is with a narrow crown pneumatic staple gun.
It needs to be fastened every 4" on the edges and from 6 to 8" in the field.
All seams and flaws need to be filled.
The seams should not line up with the seams below.
Never any glue!
I can not stress this enough, do not use peel and stick tile!!!
You floor would have seams every 12", some are just not going to stay stuck down, near impossible to lay in a straight line.
Use one piece quality glued down sheet linoleum.
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Thanks Joecaption,

You don't see a way of keeping the good parts of the old hardwood, and filling it around it like Tetris? or filling the empty parts with plywood, and then doing one sheet of underlayment on top.

the goal from this would be to keep the hardwood, if for some reason in the future we decide to repair it.

Also, I haven't searched enough yet, but are there good quality sheets that look like real tiles?
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No way should there ever have been hardwood or any form of wooden flooring in a bathroom in the first place.
Hardwood flooring is almost never totally flat and any flaws will mirror through to the linoleum.
Any form of linoleum needs a perfectly smooth underlayment under it!
If it's ever removed there no going back and refinishing it.
May even need a thicker underlayment depending on what's under that hardwood.
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Google "Armstrong Flooring".
Hundreds of choices.
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What do you think about the TrafficMaster Ceramica from Home Depot, that is peel and stick, and exists in 12x12 or 12x24 tiles?
Tons of great review on their website
I was thinking to use those in my kitchen as a temporary solution, before I entirely remodel the whole kitchen where I will have ceramic installed
But it won't be before 1,5 or 2 years.....So i thought the vinyl tiles is a not too expensive temporary solution
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What do you think about the TrafficMaster Ceramica from Home Depot, that is peel and stick, and exists in 12x12 or 12x24 tiles?
Tons of great review on their website....
What? You think they are going to post the BAD reviews on there?

No experience with them, but I'd look anywhere BUT their website for unbiased reviews.
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Just remember, the part of any vinyl flooring most likely to fail are the seams. With vinyl tiles, there are a lot of seams. Sheet vinyl is much better.
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What? You think they are going to post the BAD reviews on there?

No experience with them, but I'd look anywhere BUT their website for unbiased reviews.
There are bad reviews as well......
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Just remember, the part of any vinyl flooring most likely to fail are the seams. With vinyl tiles, there are a lot of seams. Sheet vinyl is much better.
What is the main failure? And is there a way to prevent it?
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They separate and curl. Proper installation and seam sealer help, but sometimes they fail matter what is done.
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