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Old 10-04-2015, 11:57 AM   #1
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Vinyl not curing


I did it this time I removed old sheet vinyl with heat gun and scraper. Then removed 90% of paper backing that remained with wallpaper steamer. I then sanded floor smooth and patched with correct patch. I cut my sheet vinyl and laid it with Roberts 2310 acrylic adhesive. The sub floor wasn't porous enough I guess because it has been 32 hours and it isn't set. I am going to have to take it all back up and I'm freaking out. Can anyone give me any tips on this removal? I plan on taking up the: new vinyl, 5/8th particle board, there is probably going to be slightly sticky uncured glue between vinyl and wood. Thanks!
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Here is a couple pics
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Old 10-04-2015, 12:06 PM   #3
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Will uncured glue cause floor rot? What type of saw can I use to cut through the sticky vinyl and 5/8" particle sub floor?
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#1, Did you go over it with a real flooring roller.
#2, Never should have been laid over particle board. Even high humidy can cause it to swell up, gets wet once and it turns to oat meal.
Not willing to take the time to remove it then it should have been gone over with 1/4 multi ply subfloor rated plywood.
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100% sure it's not OSB, not particle board, big difference.
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The directions on adhesive (Roberts 2310) said to lay the glue with 1/16 x 3/32 flooring trowel. That is what I used.
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It stuck down, but it's tacky underneath. I can tell the adhesive is stickier than when laid, but if I roll a rolling pin I can force it to ooze up a little on end in some spots. Everyone talked about just laying it over vinyl, I thought i was doing the right thing by stripping and sanding subfloor. Honestly my house is old and I didn't want to rip up sub floor and re level vanity.
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I used rolling pin :/
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This is what the sub floor was when I removed old vinyl.
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Needed one like this, Home Depot rents them.
https://www.google.com/webhp?sourcei...20366401729930
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So, you are saying the problem is the way I rolled it down? It seems that the problem is the actual sub floor isn't porous enough to absorb the adhesive. I replaced one section of floor around toilet with the wood pictured above, which is what has been under there for 30 years, that section adhered tight and cured within 12 hours. The rest of the floor is secured down, but it makes a noise when you put rolling pressure on it. Seems like it's gummy.
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There's air still trapped in there, plus you did not take the time to go over the floor with the 1/4 plywood.
Vinyl needed a clean, flat, no gaps or bumps underlayment.
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I couldnt, 1/4th underlay plus thicker vinyl would cause big step up where it seams with hardwoods and offset the cast iron toilet flanges. What's the best way to remove the vinyl, tacky glue, and 5/8th subfloor? I understand I messed up. The floor was smooth and skim coated on any dips or seams then sanded. It held great for 30 years so I figured I'd try to copy the way the original installer did it.
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What does it say on the can? Some has to evaporate in open air. Is it humid there? Try heating and venting. Is there a specific glue called for your sheet vinyl?
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It's Roberts 2310 luv ur vinyl adhesive. The directions say for less perms net application lay it down and wait till it won't transfer to finger, then roll out vinyl. It says for permanent install lay vinyl down when adhesive is wet.
After posting this and calling around I rented a 100 lb roller and rolled out all the air bubbles then my wife and I forced all extra adhesive and air bubbles out the sides...then I wrapped a 3" scraper with a damp rag to protect floor and ran it along vinyl surface to edges. ..air escaped and no more crackling...I really hope this works...it sounds normal now when I walk over it we will see. Thanks!
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