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Old 03-31-2014, 10:25 AM   #1
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Tiling a screened porch


We have a screened porch over our two car garage (Roughly 21x23í). Going up from the garage floor there is a dry wall ceiling, floor joists, OSB sub flooring, and hydrostop traffic coat as the surface of the floor on the porch. The screened porch floor is crowned to allow for run-off and there are weep holes in the wood frame around the screened porch for drainage. The peak of the crown is between the two garage bays shown in the picture. Iíve also attached a picture of the weep holes, which isnít the greatest because of the shadows.
We are dissatisfied with the appearance of the traffic coat because it is very difficult to get clean and impossible to keep clean and after only 6 months in the house we have some pretty distinct traffic patterns that we just canít get clean.
Our plan is to tile the screened porch. We have chosen 12 inch porcelain tiles.
Looking for input on the following plan (wish I had found this site sooner because most of the materials are scheduled to be delivered later this week):
1. Screw ľĒ Hardie backer to existing subfloor. (We have had some folks tell us that we should not screw and just use quick set to adhere the Hardie backer to the floor to avoid puncturing the waterproof barrier provided by the Hydrostop). While everything we have read indicates that we need to stagger the boards, the crown which runs down the middle of the floor seems like it will require a continuous seam. Should we create a staggered pattern for the Hardie backer leaving a continuous line down the crown?
2. Also not certain how to handle the weep holes which will now be covered by the Hardie backer and tile.

Thanks in advance for any words of wisdom.
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You dont list were you live but generally it's not a good idea. There is systems that allow you to lay tile on a deck without thinset.
here is an example of interlocking tile


http://www.coverdeck.com/

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You dont list were you live but generally it's not a good idea. There is systems that allow you to lay tile on a deck without thinset.
Oops- we live in NC.

When you say it isn't a good idea- what is the issue? Cracking?
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You did not say what size the floor joists are and how much of a crown.I would be concerned with to much deflection or to much crown in the floor for 12 x 12 ceramic.
21X23is a fairly large span without something supporting it other than floor joist.
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There is deflection(bounce) your floor joists and freezing temperatures that could crack tiles.
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There's also no for the water to run off that deck the way someone installed that bottom rail.
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There is about half an inch drop from the crown. The floor joist are (per our plan) Weyerhauser ILevel 14" TJI 360 Joists @16" OC.
The walls of the garage supporting the joist are precast concrete walls (used for whole house) and in the main body of the house the same joist plan was used to support a floating 3" concrete floor.

There are weep holes in that bottom rail, they do not show up well in the image due to the shadows. The weep holes are about 1/2" sq, and are about every 4 feet.

Thank you everyone for the comments. The comments have scared us enough, that we canceled the delivery of the tile and hardie backer for this week. (which I think was a wise decision based on everyone's comments- THANK YOU)
So now we are back to what is our best option. As I mentioned we are disappointed in the aesthetics of the hydrostop. Would the interlocking tile work with having a crown? Can it be cut to fit? What happens to water when those tiles are used- is it able to drain under? Our builder had suggested indoor/outdoor carpet, which I am very hesitant to do (maybe it is better than it used to be, but I have flashbacks to the plastic green pieces outside peoples RVs in the early 80s). Another thought is to really keep it simple and use woven outdoor area rugs. We have 2 main areas of issue out there, one is that we eat a majority of our meals out there (moved the dining room table to the porch) and have a toddler so there is a decent amount of spills that are tough to clean. And we use the screened porch for taking our dogs in and out of the house and end up with a good amount of red dirt dog prints on the grey floor in a traffic pattern that always looks dirty.
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