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Old 12-30-2010, 06:54 PM   #571
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Allure over Ceramic tile


My wife and I put ceramic tile in our basement, and we want to remodel beginning with the Allure flooring. Has anyone laid Allure over any sort of tile? If so did you have any issues with the grout gaps between the tiles? or with the Vinal conforming to the shape or outlines of the individual tiles?

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Old 12-31-2010, 05:50 PM   #572
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TrafficMaster Allure


I feel even more confused after reading all these posts!! I was considering Mannington Adura flooring at $3.77 sq ft and came across the trafficMaster Allure at $1.79 sq ft but now don't know if going cheap is the right thing to do????
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Old 12-31-2010, 05:53 PM   #573
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Based on the info I have read on this thread I'd say cheap is not the way to go



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Old 12-31-2010, 08:30 PM   #574
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My wife and I put ceramic tile in our basement, and we want to remodel beginning with the Allure flooring. Has anyone laid Allure over any sort of tile? If so did you have any issues with the grout gaps between the tiles? or with the Vinal conforming to the shape or outlines of the individual tiles?
Allure is not designed/intended for use on anything but a flat surface.
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Old 01-03-2011, 08:26 PM   #575
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Seams showing


I recently had allure put in my basement. The seams are popping up. What can I do? Is it to late to go over it with a roller?
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Old 01-03-2011, 08:47 PM   #576
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Old 01-03-2011, 08:51 PM   #577
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Thanks for the info.
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Old 01-04-2011, 10:08 AM   #578
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I can't understand why anyone would put the floor down without the use of a roller. It clearly states to use one in the instructions and I think is a critical step in the installation. They can be rented at most large home improvement stores for fairly cheap.
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Old 01-04-2011, 10:13 AM   #579
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I forgot to post up some photos of my floor after I got it laid down.



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Old 01-17-2011, 11:31 AM   #580
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Allure TrafficMaster Vinyl plank flooring


22 months ago I laid this flooring in my kitchen. I purchased a premium underlayment product from Lowes because I was laying it on concrete that isn't exactly level throughout the room and I needed the vapor barrier as well as comfort and warmth underneath. The product I used is Precision Components Premium underlayment and it runs about $45 for 100 sq ft. I swear by the combination. I used 3/4 round trim around the edges that I purchased from Home Depot from the laminate flooring section (just take a plank and match the closest, it doesn't have to be exact because the angle of the light in the room is different from the floor laying flat). There are a few VERY IMPORTANT things to remember when laying this product, and are worth the extra effort.

1-You must leave the product in the house for at least 2 days to adjust to the temperature where it will be installed before using it. I open the boxes, but leave the planks in them.
2-You must leave 1/8 to 1/4 inch space between the flooring and the wall to allow for expansion (in the heat) and contraction (in the cold) to prevent buckling or seperation.
3-I didn't leave any adhesive edges around the walls, I trimmed it to the thickness of the plank -didn't want in unlevel under the quarter round.
4- When putting the quarter round down do not put it too tight against the floor (tight against the wall), you must not restrict the floor from being able to expand and contract as it needs to in the summer/winter (as explained in #2).
5- Keep a vaccum handy and keep all grit and dust off the product until you are done. Especially don't let anything (not even your fingers) get on the adhesive too much. I placed the paper inserts that come between the planks over and under the edge of the planks adhesive (as I was going) until I came back to that section of flooring.
6- Make sure the surface you are laying it on is free of lumps and bumps.

The underlayment has taped edges so it creates a great flat barrier. Like I said I installed this in my kitchen before I left for a job up north for 18 months. I just knew when I returned that I'd have to replace it due to my husband and dog, as the kitchen has the back door to our house and is a major traffic area and we live in sand...so I just knew the grit would rouin the flooring over time.

Much to my surprise it looks great. I clean it with Allure Single-step Cleaner & Polisher (get the right finish for the flooring you chose - I did the stain finish cherry, so I use soft satin finish cleaner, if you chose the shiny planks use the glossy one). I love it so much I went out yesterday and bought enough underlayment, flooring and quarter round to do my living room and hallway. Next I'll do my dinning room and foyer.

I will tell you something else I did. as I laid each piece I made sure it was as close as it could get (to prevent any grit from getting between it later) and I rolled it with the cabinet laminate roller as I went. After laying a section I would put on my socks and walk across it and slide along the seams. When I was done I had my husband help (since he is much bigger than me). I have had no seperation or buckling and we are both extremely happy with the product.

If you get anything sticky on it use an ice cube and rub it and use a rag to rub as you go and it will come right up. I got a little paint on mine, use a wet paper towel as soon as possible will get anything off the floor, but if you miss something that sits on there and dries, just use a box cutter and gently scrape it (with the grain) and it will come off without any damage. I'm telling you, for the money, the easy install, and durability you can not beat this product!!!!
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Old 01-17-2011, 10:31 PM   #581
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Allure in a vacation home that gets winterized


Our lake home is at about 10 degrees F right now (inside). We winterize it every winter for 5 months. Anyone had experience with this product being subject to these conditions?
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Old 01-18-2011, 06:05 PM   #582
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To TLB2010 - an excellent, very coherent piece. Also, you obviously really read the booklet. I did kitchen last Sunday with no problems except being sore from getting down of anf off my knees (I am 69 years old). Cutting the material was not a problem. I used utility blade (used only two blades for 240 square feet) and sometimes large shears.

A comment to person who stated that he /she needed too many blades - do not use the tip of the blade; hold the knife handle a' 30 degrees as related to the surface of the material, do not press too hard and go over the line 2 times, then break the material by partially bending down and going from side-to side of the whole length of the cut. The material is made from two layers that are glued together. When the top layer breaks, bend the piece up to break the bottom one.

I used pencil to do the lines and did the cutting free hand . I find it easier than following some straight edge which would keep slipping on the material's surface.

Next will be large 4 season sun room for our French Bulldogs to frolic around.

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Our lake home is at about 10 degrees F right now (inside). We winterize it every winter for 5 months. Anyone had experience with this product being subject to these conditions?
I tried couple of cut-off pieces last Sunday - left them outside (a' 28 deg. F) for few hours. The glue became non-tacking and the pieces would not adhere to each other. After heating them some the glue started working again.

Allure says not to use this material where it gets exposed to extreme temperatures for extended time, be it cold or hot (over 90 deg,. F). Allure should be installed at temp. of 60+ degrees.
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Old 01-18-2011, 10:32 PM   #584
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reply to question 1.


padding will compromise the new flooring - too soft. we also have a concrete floor and will have dricore subfloor installed first, then allure over it.

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Well, after many months of researching flooring, I am going to do the hall, living room,dining room and kitchen. It seems that this product is best so far. My questions are:
1. My subflloor is concrete and I just feel it needs some padding underneath, like should I or can I keep the carpet padding and install this over it? Home Depot says no. I am on the 3rd floor so moisture is not a problem. But the concrete floor is not perfectly smooth.
2. My living room/dining area and kitchen are all open to eachother but I will be going from the concrete flooring to putting this over 40 year old vinyl when I get to the kitchen with a wood 2X4 between the vinyl and concrete. Will this be a problem in heights? I can't remove the vinyl cuz is has asbestos.
3. Home Depot gave me a quick class on Pergo installation in terms of how to set up the planks etc. and measure. Would the directions be the same for this stuff?
4. Are any of you using the 50lb. weight roller after you are done to seal the seams?
ok thats it. I am nervous. Is there a site with easy instrucitons?
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Allure has problems!


I installed 600sq ft over a healthy clean concrete slab in my "granny unit" which I use as a music practice space. The conditions at that time (Northern CA wine country in October) were temp upper 70s to low 80s, moderate humidity. Left it onsite two weeks prior to actual installation.

Intall process was very easy; I have done two houses in floating wood laminate (Pergo etc) prior to this and cutting/laying the Allure is a joy. Kept dust at absolute minimum, covered and protected glue edges with the slick paper Allure comes packed in. Got good fit and no gaps at all between planks, walked all over the seams in my socks for basically hours. The glue seemed very tenacious during install; you dont want to make any mistakes with this stuff as taking it back apart would be much more difficult than the directions indicate. I did the project over about 4 days. It looked great, but over several mornings I noticed slight lift of the seams mainly in areas that hadn't had as much foot traffic--the side of the room furthest from the door.

I then rolled it all with a 90lb roller rented from Home Dept. That helped, briefly.

To my dismay, these same seams are lifting/curling, BADLY by now (three months later and in cooler weather). I have tapped, prodded, pressed on these areas and have to conclude two things:

1. The inner versus outer layers of Allure have two different "coefficients of expansion" or whatever, related not only to temperature but to humidity/moisture (?more in slab versus atmosphere?) as well, and possibly also from release of some fumes from the finish layer which I noticed, but wasn't excessive. For all of these reasons, the end result is that allure planks want to curl and assume a concave shape especially in cooler conditions.

2. The glue remains somewhat soft/viscous, although it is strong, the curling forces (and lower temperature?) WILL win out and result in the glue slowly releasing its grip, that's a fairly easy to understand physical principle.

I have not yet decided to file a warranty claim, mainly because I am not really interested in re-doing this project and I feel the same thing would happen anyway. I am looking for other options. Someone mentioned superglue--this might be a useful idea and I will try some tests on this.

In the meantime I will have to keep vacuuming this very often, I think that getting any dust into these areas will seriously limit any hope of a good repair on this problem.

My story helps confirm what many others have stated in this thread--curl and edge lift are a very real issue with Allure, unless you put it in a place that is always 80 degrees and give it (paradoxically) a lot of foot traffic all over.

Think twice about using this stuff! I hope this helps......
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