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Old 02-22-2014, 10:03 PM   #16
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Yes it is. But sounds like you don't understand why.

There is no doubt ceramic tile mastic is fine for tile. We're not talking about tile, we're talking about slate tile. Will you please let us know exactly which mastic you were sold. It's important for others reading this to know.

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Yes it is. But sounds like you don't understand why. There is no doubt ceramic tile mastic is fine for tile. We're not talking about tile, we're talking about slate tile. Will you please let us know exactly which mastic you were sold. It's important for others reading this to know. Jaz
Trying to find it on Lowes site.... I know it was a Type 1 Mastic
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Old 02-22-2014, 10:46 PM   #18
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Keep looking, there are several available.

Mastics have their place, they're fine for areas such as a kitchen backsplash which is relatively dry and low stress.

To the pros, it makes no sense to use mastic on a floor, and never on a concrete floor, and that goes double for natural stone tiles. Why would you? Mastics stay soft and your tiles can crack from normal foot traffic.

Mastics are organic and can stain some stones, and may promote mold too. They dry very slow especially under large tiles. We've seen and heard of many cases where the tiles still moved when twisted by hand even after 3-4 days. People sometimes have had to wait a week or longer before they could grout. The mastic "thought" it was still in the can.

Another negative is that mastics will return to its original state if exposed to moisture. Lift a tile after many years and it may be "mush". It's not waterproof, it's barely water resistant at best.

The only good thing about mastic is that it's easier for small jobs cuz it's ready to go. Well, and also the bucket it comes in can come in handy.

All this at a cost of 3-5 times what real thin set costs. But, it's not fair to compare the cost when you're only setting a few tiles. I'm thinking normal size rooms.

Lowes in your area carry Tec Invision Mastic. Use it for a dry vertical project. Read the limitations and you'll leave it on the shelf next time.

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More then one way to skin a cat. Like I said in the beginning thinset is preferred by most people. But it is not the only product that must be used. Done many projects over the years.... Many many years using both and both held up the same. Like it or not what you may prefer is just that.... Your preference
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Not sure of the brand or type but lowes used to sell a 4 gallon bucket of pink mastic that was fair in price an worked great on floors. For the extra effort I agree thinset is cheaper and dries faster. Anyhow just read labels and do what is best for you
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I definitely agree with all that Olcrazy1. Not every installation tests the materials to their max.

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Well the tiles with the mastic never fully adhered a day later. They moved around when I pressed on them and tried to move them, the ones with the thinset held strong. I ripped up the ones with the mastic...uuuuughhh.
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Surprise...surprise!

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Lol... I hear ya.....my wife heard me to this morning too....cursing my a$$ off
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You're lucky that you're a DIY'er. Had you been a contractor and you did what you did, the "Tile Police" would have dealt with you already.

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You're lucky that you're a DIY'er. Had you been a contractor and you did what you did, the "Tile Police" would have dealt with you already. Jaz
If I was a contractor I'm sure I would not have done that.....
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