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Old 03-10-2014, 07:25 PM   #1
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Hardwood staples never go in all the way -- need setting


I just started installing my hardwood floor and got past the first few rows that require vertical nailing so that the hardwood nailer can fit.

However, one thing that's annoying is that staples NEVER go in all the way into the groove, instead they are sticking just enough for the top to be touching the upper rail above the groove. So I need to set them manually, which works but is slow as hell.

Is there a possibility that I am doing something wrong? I am using a NuMax nailer, which got high reviews on Amazon. Could it be that the setting depth on the nailer is set to not go deep enough? I am using the proper shoe pad on the nailer that matches my flooring thickness (3/4").
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Try turning the pressure up on the compressor. It should be between 90 and 100PSI for most nailers. If that does not work then there is something wrong with the nailer.
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the air pressure was fine
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If the shoe is right, then the pressure is too low. How do you know the pressure is "fine"?

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the air pressure was fine
I've seen pressure gauges that were 20-30 PSI off.

I used a HF nailer.....I adjusted the air pressure until I got the depth I wanted.

For reference...that same air pressure was not enough for my brad nailer....
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How do you know the pressure is "fine"?
The gauge on the compressor. Now, if something impedes the pressure inside the gun, that's within the gun. I tried blowing through the hose to see if there may be something that clogs it but that too was fine.
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The same air compressor pressure has no problem nailing a 3" framing nail into a 2x4. I don't see why it would have problem driving a teeny staple into hardwood. Unless it is for the hardness of the lumber.
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What kind of hardwood?
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The same air compressor pressure has no problem nailing a 3" framing nail into a 2x4. I don't see why it would have problem driving a teeny staple into hardwood. Unless it is for the hardness of the lumber.
Ya think??

Doesn't the compressor have a regulator with a pressure gage, along with the tank's pressure gage? You been oiling the gun?

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What kind of hardwood?
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Doesn't the compressor have a regulator with a pressure gage, along with the tank's pressure gage? You been oiling the gun?
the regulator don't really do much when i turn the knob but the compressor pumps up to about 115 psi max. The gun is brand new and I did lube the s*it out of it before plugging it in for the first time.
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the regulator don't really do much when i turn the knob but the compressor pumps up to about 115 psi max.
The tank's gage is always gonna go to near 120 psi. That gage tells you nothing in regards to how much pressure you're delivering to the gun. The last dial, the one regulated by the regulator is the only you adjust. If it just turns, it means you didn't pull the knob out so it'll do something. They're not all the same, my first one didn't need pulling out, the one I have now does. What does the last dial say?

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You may also have a dial on the gun to adjust depth.
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Hmmm....might be me. I'm off today with a cold and have a little Nyquil in my system so I could be missing something, but I normally nail the tongue and not the groove. Just me? I've been doing it wrong all this time?
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I did not catch that. If he is nailing into the grove instead of the tongue, that is a big problem. I have talk to people trying to install hardwood the wrong way. (Into the grove)
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