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Old 11-04-2015, 07:10 PM   #1
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First time hardwood floor installation with few professional questions


I have purchased 3/4" thick red oak prefinished hardwood from Lumber Liquidator. When I went to store to pick up the wood, it had very strong weired smell. I did ask sales and he said it's normal red oak smell. However, I did purchase red oak before, but it never had this weird smell before. After few days of rest, I did open one box to see how this wood quality is and find some have very strong almost like poo smell and some has mild wood smell. Is this normal? or should I return?

I am strongly thinking of hiring an installer for this job. Currently, floor for the area has been clean up put underlayment and ready to go.

What is normally expected from installation cost/sq feet?

I did removed trim from room and once this is finished with flooring, we need to put trims back on.

Not sure if installer includes to nailing back trim, but if more cost, I can put them back afterwards.

What is best way to find floor installer? Lumber liquidator has 10% sale on installation, but not sure that is how I want to hire my installer.

Any input will be greatly appreciated.
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Old 11-04-2015, 07:25 PM   #2
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I have laid down a few thousand feet of red oak. None of it smelled like poo.

Is this solid red oak, or engineered ?
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No location in your profile so how would anyone know what you local labor rate is?
Guess you missed all the news about Lumber Liquidaters.
Red oak has no smell so that should tell you something.
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I suspect the moisture content percent is off the chart.
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Guess you missed all the news about Lumber Liquidaters.
The new on LL refers to laminate flooring, which is going to be constructed similar to mdf and is full of adhesive. Cheap adhesive is full of formaldehyde.

If its solid oak, that news is not relevant.

Finish is possibly a urethane. I suppose its possible that the finish did not cure properly. I would be more concerned about the durability of the finish if that was the case.

Also possible a dog peed on the box.
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I understand the workers in the wood floor factories don't get bathroom breaks. Wonder if there is a connection.
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Given all I have read about lumber liquidators, off gassing and other issues with Chinese building products, lead in paints (mostly Chinese made toys) the last place I would buy flooring of any type is from lumber liquidators (if it's not 100% Chinese it's close) and I would be avoiding any flooring made in China from any manufacturer. I won't buy farm raised fish or shrimp from China either . Other issues with those.
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Right....so, where does this red oak come from? Where was it milled and finished? I suppose it's possible solid oak may have come from China, but I doubt it.

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I am located in Seattle, WA. What I hear from Lowes, Home Depot and Lumber liquidators is average price for hardwood installation is $4.00/sq ft.

This smell was pretty noticeable from time I was pick up the wood. That's why I had to question the sales guy. Based on opening one box, it seems some has strong order vs some hardly any.

I am questioning myself if I should return this because it was on sale for $5/dq ft when normal price was $6. So, it was pretty good price.

The smell is not anything synthetic adhesive, but it is strange nature and not present.
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Are you sure its the actual flooring and not the cardboard packaging? I have had some pretty awful smelling cardboard from China in the past.

If its not the packaging, I would suspect the flooring was cut from a diseased tree. If that is the case probably should exchange. Ask for mat'l from different lot numbers.

You might want to look at lot numbers from your existing load. You may be able to identify the bad lot and help with sorting.

You are not likely to get much help on install quotes from here. Need to go to your locals for quotes.
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I suggest you take it back--

I have run across some smelly wood in my work---spalting can cause that--but whatever the cause--that stink will linger and come back whenever the humidity rises.
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If you are displeased take that flooring back to LL.
Whatever ya do don't hire them to install it ... hire a local tradesperson!
Get some references from anyone you hire. then call those references.
A good local contractor will take pride in doing the job right, they have a reputation to keep in your area.
If you have someone install the smelly stuff, see if your flooring contractor will prep (scuff) and lay a couple coats of polyurethane down once it's installed, that will seal that floor and should eliminate any smell once it cures.

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I have purchased 3/4" thick red oak prefinished hardwood from Lumber Liquidator. When I went to store to pick up the wood, it had very strong weired smell. I did ask sales and he said it's normal red oak smell. However, I did purchase red oak before, but it never had this weird smell before. After few days of rest, I did open one box to see how this wood quality is and find some have very strong almost like poo smell and some has mild wood smell. Is this normal? or should I return?

I am strongly thinking of hiring an installer for this job. Currently, floor for the area has been clean up put underlayment and ready to go.

What is normally expected from installation cost/sq feet?

I did removed trim from room and once this is finished with flooring, we need to put trims back on.

Not sure if installer includes to nailing back trim, but if more cost, I can put them back afterwards.

What is best way to find floor installer? Lumber liquidator has 10% sale on installation, but not sure that is how I want to hire my installer.

Any input will be greatly appreciated.
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You may not know this...but lumber liquidators stock is in the pooper just like your flooring. There was not too long ago a 60 min. program on how they lie about the products they manufacturer over in their Chinese plants. They actually showed a chines factory manager admitting that they put in formaldehyde, urea, all kinds of glues, etc. which are banned in building products here in USA. You really need to take that chines JUNK back to LL before it kills you or your pets.

You know-if you shop around you can buy red oak-the real stuff from local mills & lumber yards & you can get it in different board widths or all the same & random lengths. And when you finish it its a great durable floor. And you may also find out that the real stuff complete with install & finishing may not be much higher if at all over that Chinese junk.

I just finished building my home here in SC a year & a half ago. I have a 2,396 sq. foot home. It has 3/4" red oak, random lengths & widths throughout the entire house & is finished natural with semi gloss poly overcoat. The cost was about 10k. You probably can do your room for under 2k professionally done. Why are you screwing with that corporate biohazard crap.? It's just another Chinese drywall scandal waiting to happen. When people start getting sick & they put it together-LL will be out of business & it will be doing the consumer a service when they are gone. Just my own opinion here.

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If you want cheap flooring made in the US I suggest you look at reallycheapfloors.com. I bought about 2000 sq ft of engineered maple made by Somerset, milled in Ky for $0.85 per sq ft. Sure it was seconds but you can not tell the difference. I glued on slab, did my entire house for $4K.
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I've never had any problems from Lumber Liquidators at all...
Not one damn complaint...
When it comes to this, follow the money, and there's where your answer is going to be...
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