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Old 01-13-2020, 08:23 AM   #1
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I have doors in my family room that lead to steps of a sunroom. The plate in the floor is not level and people trip on it at times.

Here’s what it looks like. I’m trying to think of a way to make it less hazardous. Any ideas?
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Old 01-13-2020, 08:53 AM   #2
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The best way since those steps do not meet code is to rebuild the steps and make them come out even with the threshold.
The tread depth and likely the riser height is way off.
At a bare minimum I get rid of that brick molding.
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Old 01-13-2020, 12:00 PM   #3
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That first tread nosing should be eliminated so you step directly down and the other riser heights adjusted (or create a level landing). However you'll still have a huge trip hazard. The door looks to be installed on top of a 1x nailer (2x if below the linoleum subfloor). Also, the threshold looks from the thickness and profile to be a wood jamb with no extrusion cover, so I'm really not sure how that door came as a pre-fab unit. So, if this is a family room that is 4 season, and no secure locking system/weatherproof is needed, why not just remove the entire threshold?
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That first tread nosing should be eliminated so you step directly down and the other riser heights adjusted (or create a level landing). However you'll still have a huge trip hazard. The door looks to be installed on top of a 1x nailer (2x if below the linoleum subfloor). Also, the threshold looks from the thickness and profile to be a wood jamb with no extrusion cover, so I'm really not sure how that door came as a pre-fab unit. So, if this is a family room that is 4 season, and no secure locking system/weatherproof is needed, why not just remove the entire threshold?
Good call. So I believe that these doors originally lead outside and the previous owner added an Addition (it's considered a 4 season room due to the windows. It just doesn't have heat and relies on the fireplace).

But anyway I think that removing the threshold would help since it's not even really needed. Maybe they had it from before from when it went directly outside.

How would one go about removing this? Pry it out?

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The top step or part of a step should not be there, it will give you an optical miss and is very dangerous.

If you remove the threshold you will still have a transition, almost as bad.
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How would one go about removing this? Pry it out?
Unfortunately it looks like it is attached to the underside of the jambs. So it still could be possible to remove without removing the entire door frame, but maybe there would have to be some consideration put into what goes there next. You'll still need the bolt holes for the slave leaf, and still have the transition to the carpet and can't tell if the first mini-stair nosing is lower than the linoleum height. It looks with the hold-open door-stop you keep these doors open a lot, or do you need the weatherseal to keep the doors shut in the winter? So going to a lower profile threshold (or none) would leave a gap under the existing doors.

It may not be good to rely on me for advice here, because that setup would be the dearth of my existence and I would tear up/out whatever it requires to make it right, even the entire door (and adding ductwork to the family room!). But my OCD aside I think there is no quick solution and may involve a little bit of work.
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Show us some picture of the stairs from the side.
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Show us some picture of the stairs from the side.
This is from the other entrance (just so I'm not confusing anyone lol). There's two entrances to the room that are identical.


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This is from the other entrance (just so I'm not confusing anyone lol). There's two entrances to the room that are identical.

The stairs should be remade with 3 full sized step or just remove that top nose and have 2 equal sized treads.


Do you know or can you measure the height difference between the floors?
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This is from the other entrance (just so I'm not confusing anyone lol). There's two entrances to the room that are identical.

The stairs should be remade with 3 full sized step or just remove that top nose and have 2 equal sized treads.


Do you know or can you measure the height difference between the floors?
It looks to be about 2 inches.
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Would building something like this be dangerous?
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It looks to be about 2 inches.
Code on stairs are there for a reason., If you remove the threshold you want the upper floor to continue out the edge or continue the carpet in the width of a step. It is all about not tricking the eye. You want people to be able to glance down and know exactly what they are seeing is right and they can go back to looking where they are going.
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