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Old 09-14-2016, 09:09 PM   #1
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we have sheet vinyl down now,,,its been down 20 yrs,,,in good shape,,,want a change,,,don't want tile or hardwoods,,,can I use NO glue vinyl OVER this floor ?
I don't want to build up too much due to dishwasher nt having a lot of clearance and thresholds,,,
Kitchen is L shaped galley ranch kitchen,,,it transitions into two rooms,,,both hardwoods
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Old 09-14-2016, 09:47 PM   #2
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All depends on your present vinyl flooring. Most sheet goods are soft and going over will cause problems. If not soft, you can apply an embossing prep product to eliminate the problem of the old pattern telegraphing to the new. But soft flooring will show dents from heels and chairs etc. Loose laid may eliminate the dent problem, but can pucker or tear if not careful.

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IVC type vinyl will go over old vinyl as long as the old is not a"cushioned" product.
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I don't think ripping up old vinyl is that much work so I would do that first and then put down the new vinyl.
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I don't think ripping up old vinyl is that much work so I would do that first and then put down the new vinyl.
It can be a bear if it is glued. And what if it contains asbestos? It doesn't hurt anything to cover it if it is not cushioned vinyl.

Of course, what do I know. I only have 42 years experience.
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If you have a heat register in the floor, you can pop it out and should be able to see the flooring layers. If the vinyl was put down like they normally did 20 years ago, it's probably over 1/4" luan. If you don't see any glue between the luan and the subfloor, the vinyl and luan can be taken up pretty easily. Get a circular saw and set the blade depth at 3/8" and saw the floor up into approx 3' squares. Drive a pry bar under a section and pop then up. If the flooring is twenty years old, asbestos shouldn't be an issue.
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It's Mannington vinyl...over luan..that is over 1" thick plywood floor...I do not believe this would be considered cushioned....again if I get gget away with 1/4"or less and safe to go over???
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And it IS glued
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And it IS glued
Ouch. That won't come up like I said in the previous post. Especially if they used something like liquid nails. A lot of the jobs back then they would use a 1/4" crown air stapler and staple the heck out of it. But it would come up pretty easy.
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the vinyl is glued,,,the luan I don't think is I think its stapled,,,I grabbed the edge after removing the register ad I think I could pull it up
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Just cover it up with any loose lay vinyl and be done with it. Don't make it any harder than necessary. Unless the floor is extremely rough, it won't show through.
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Mannington sheet goods were all rotogravure and therefore cushioned. Doesn't mean it's got ⅛" foam on the back and feels soft, but it does have a thin layer of foam just under the finish/pattern. The foam is very thin but it varies from line to line. New vinyl made to be loose laid should work, but with increased chance of indentation.

The "older" inlaid type are not cushioned and some were smooth. Easily identified cuz they were only made in 6' widths. Your Mannington is probably 12' wide.

Best thing to do is to removed the ~" luan and start over if in doubt.

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