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Old 06-21-2018, 07:59 PM   #1
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7" wide engineered hardware - Nail? Glue? Both?


We purchased 7" wide engineered hardware with tongue and groove installation to put on our raised wood sub floor house in California. We would like to put a 3 in 1 vapor barrier underlayment but the manufacturer website suggests to glue and nail floors wider then 6". If we glue it, we would not be able to use the underlayment.
Does anyone have any experience or knowledge to share on how we should install given these facts?
Flooring is City Expressions by Medallion.
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Old 06-21-2018, 08:05 PM   #2
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There are glues that are vapour barrier too, so they claim.
I have seen it used on concrete basement floor below grade. But I can not attest to how well it works.
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Old 06-21-2018, 08:44 PM   #3
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I am no expert either, but Neil is right - adhesives designed to be vapor barriers are exactly that. Only thing is, I would suggest Mapei, not HD stuff.
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Old 06-21-2018, 08:53 PM   #4
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Thank you - but wholly smokes that would be expensive to use on 1800sqft!
Also doesnt solve my noise issue being on a raised floor - any ideas for that?

Lets say we did not nail and glue - would this be an issue in say 10 years from now or likely sooner then that?
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Give us a link to the actual product not just a name. Will give us a chance to investigate better. I can understand nail down, but the glue has me wondering. More information you provide the better.
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https://nebula.wsimg.com/44f2de86086...&alloworigin=1

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Glazed over your link, can you zero me in on where they tell that flooring greater than 6" can not be floated. Would save me some time. Give me page number and approximate paragraph.
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Old 06-21-2018, 09:42 PM   #8
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https://www.medallion1.com/city-expr...medallion.html

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Pg 5, right column "Nail/Staple + Glue Installation Instructions"
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Based on manufacturer installation instructions, it is a glue/nail down procedure and not a floating floor procedure. As you have not installed yet, you have the opportunity of returning you current product and looking into something without such restrictions. Step down to to 5 of 6 inch width and you don't have these restrictions.
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Old 06-22-2018, 04:57 AM   #11
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Maybe I missed something. "Installation: Staples + Glue, Glue Down or Float."
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Quote:
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Also doesnt solve my noise issue being on a raised floor - any ideas for that?

http://www.mapei.com/public/COM/prod...ECO_995_EN.pdf


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Old 06-22-2018, 04:36 PM   #13
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LOL - Yes Chandler, you missed the whole section below that header stating when to use each.

Thanks for the suggestions everyone - we decided to stick to the manufacturers suggestion and are praying its all done before our move in date next week!

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Quote:
whole section below that header
In post #8? I just read it 4 more times and didn't see anything. Sorry
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