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Old 02-28-2014, 11:57 AM   #16
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Dave,

NEVER glue the underlayment to the subfloor.

Screw the new to the subfloor, use 1 1/4" flooring screws. The only issue I see is that your subfloor is very wimpy and the screws may not "bite" as well as you'd like. See how that goes.

Subfloor and all underlayments ALWAYS go perpendicular to the joists, always. That is their strongest axis. Be sure of offset both ways from the sub of course.

Always leave 1/8" gap in sub and underlayment and min. 1/4" at perimeter and any vertical object.

Yes you have to tape the seams of CBU's. The only exception is factory edges on Wonderboard brand, cuz of the way the edges are wrapped. You can tape as you install although I never liked to do it that way. I kept moving the tape with the trowel.

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every question has 12 different answers when I search online.... ugh.
Tell me about it................. Anyone who ever wanted to give advice can do so online. I have found that You Tube is awful. I like it, but it's a dangerous place. So many idiots there.

But my criticism is not just for amateurs. There a certain nationally known DIY show guy who has or has had a TV show who doesn't know his rear end from the hole in the wall. (when it comes to tile and flooring in general). He has sold books and has videos etc.

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Old 03-02-2014, 11:42 PM   #17
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Hey Jaz, thanks again for all your help. We successfully laid the ply and cbu. I'm taping this week and then laying my tile next weekend. Figured you've been so helpful that I'd ask for your recommendation on mortar to lay the slate tiles? Again they are a Brazilian Black 12x24 Slate tile. I found products at Home Depot and lowes for stone or large format tiles but wasn't sure if I should spend the extra money if something else can do the same job? This floor has gotten to be expensive so I'd like to save where I can, but don't want to sacrifice what I have done already by buying an inferior product. Thanks!

Oh and any other tips or words of wisdom to prep or lay the tile?

I will definitely send you a photo once this is complete, you've been a huge help!
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Old 03-03-2014, 10:24 PM   #18
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Dave,

Well yea you need to use mortar that is intended for large/heavy natural stone. Which mortar were you thinking about? Last time I looked neither HD nor Lowes carried expensive mortars. The most is what (?) $30 a #50? I don't think they carry specialty mortars that can cost $120-140 for a #40. (and you don't need those anyway).

So look for what is known as 'medium-bed' mortar, aka granite & stone or similar.

Oh yea, I like pics.

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Numbers 1 - 2 - 4 & 5 are very good for your slate.

# 2 & 4 are standard type medium bed. The other two are a little more hi-tech.

Personally I'd would probably select # 2 or # 4, but If I had the time to read all the data, I might choose any of the 4.

# 3 Versabond, is an entry-level but decent mortar, but you need a medium bed, so leave it at the store.

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You can set up the flooring after the units and preserve 20-30 sq. ft. But it'll take more time to set up less flooring, plus always a opportunity to harm the new units.
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Hey guys thanks for the help! So the slate is down and now I am preparing to grout this week... I have 1/8 spacing and planned on using a charcoal unsanded grout after I seal the tile of course. So a few questions I guess... Any tips on grouting 500 square feet of tile? Any products I should use or stay away from? Any sealers you would recommend(looking for the least shine possible, matte if possible)? And any particular way you would suggest sealing the tile both before and after grouting? I have seen different methods. Thanks for your help and I can't wait to get this finished! I have much respect for flooring contractors after this job.
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Dave,

So, the slate was cut good enough to install it with only 1/8" grout spaces? 1/8" for slate is kinda unusual, very small, IMO.

I also think you should reconsider using unsanded grout with slate. Does your slate have natural cleft or is it smoother than most?

Many people apply a sealer before grouting, but you can also apply a "grout release" so the grout doesn't stick into the crevices as much. It may also be necessary to do a heavy duty cleaning after the grout cures. Slate can = PIA.

There so many products available that it's hard to give specific recommendations, plus we don't know what's available to you.

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So the end is near! We would like to use an enhancer and sealer in one product, and wondered if the Aqua Mix Enrich N Seal is a decent product? I have seen that the Aqua Mix and the 511 seem to be comparable, but the Aqua states that it has a longer life and is about $15 cheaper for the quart... any experience with either? both? Thanks!
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Those are both very good products. I still like Miracle Sealants 511 Seal & Enhance though.

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