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Old 11-30-2017, 09:43 PM   #61
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I'm also currently debating removing the subfloor in the kitchen. There is to much bounce as it is to lay tile. I'm wondering if I install a new subfloor, can I then lay tile?
First determine if you existing floor joists can support tile. Measure their size, spacing, and unsupported span and then head here. With a house this age, there is a good chance you may need to beef up whats there.

Once you determine your joists are sufficient, then worry about the subfloor.
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I'm also currently debating removing the subfloor in the kitchen. There is to much bounce as it is to lay tile. I'm wondering if I install a new subfloor, can I then lay tile?
I just removed the 1/2" plywood subfloor in my bathroom due to rot and bounce. It was suggested to me that my options were to remove the existing and replace with 3/4" T&G or leave and go over with 5/8". I chose to remove it because I felt better with a solid floor right to the joists free of squeaks. It was quite a bit of work to cut it all out and install blocking around the perimeter, but the end result is great.
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I concur with drop. If laying tile I'd want to take it all the way to the joists and even see about sistering them if needed.

Our house has 2x8 joists, but every single one of them is notched from below for water supply lines, and notched at the beam, effectively making them 2x6's. Drives me crazy. Any time I do anything major to a room I try to correct the deflection.

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No way I would have ever opened that fridge! Wow!
It was...unpleasant. Juices were leaking through the floor into the basement.
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First determine if you existing floor joists can support tile. Measure their size, spacing, and unsupported span and then head here. With a house this age, there is a good chance you may need to beef up whats there.

Once you determine your joists are sufficient, then worry about the subfloor.
Thanks for the link. I don't know the span or spacing off hand - they are 2x8s. One side is resting on top of the top plate of the foundation. The other side (interior side) are toe nailed to the face of the main beam.
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lots of work, but definitely there's good material to work with...good luck!
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2nd floor bathrooms. I'm not sure if there were originally 2 bathrooms or if the one large bathroom was divided up at some point in the past. Either way, I'm fortunate that 2 bathrooms are possible in this old house.

I don't know where the family used the restroom or bathed. The master bath was completely non-functional. The hallway bath wasn't much better.

Hallway Bathroom






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I don't know how the toilet didn't fall down into the kitchen.


Same photo of the notched joists from earlier in this thread - this is a photo from above.
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I thought about keeping and refinishing the bathtubs. After lots of research, the consensus is that even a perfect refinishing won't last nearly as long as the original factory finish.

Also, I didn't feel like carrying them back up the stairs after refinishing. Gone, baby, gone.





Also, neither had functioning hardware.
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MAN those joists are funky. And not in the good George Clinton kind of funky
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It is amazing who some of these bathroom never ended up in the basement.
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One huge lesson learned for the next time (if there is a next time).

I would have two 40ft dumpsters dropped on site and hire some college kids or unskilled labor and have them remove everything from the house and gut it/clean up. Start with a blank slate.

It took me weeks to clean the place after work and on weekends.
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One huge lesson learned for the next time (if there is a next time).

I would have two 40ft dumpsters dropped on site and hire some college kids or unskilled labor and have them remove everything from the house and gut it/clean up. Start with a blank slate.

It took me weeks to clean the place after work and on weekends.
I bought this vacant lot 20 minutes outside the city I work in early 2015. It is at the end of this dead end road. And right next to it is another lot. They each have a clearing on the edge where the street is. So the road separates these two clearings, then the rest of the lots touch and turn into thick woods. No one had been down there is years obviously. So I looked up the records and contacted the owner and bought that second lot. Owner has got it in 96 and abandoned it around 2010.

There was an old trailer on it with so much junk inside and out. The fridge was very much like the one in this thread. There was some odd stuff in there. I just gave the trailer away since all I paid for really was the lot. Then I used an old 8N tractor to just drag all the trash into two big piles. I lit one on fire and just kept pushing stuff into it with the back of the blade. Then when all the wood and leaves were burned I just shoveled it into the truck bed. I still have to get up the second pile. But man that was a lot of work. I even cut out a lot of roots that had grown under trailer so I could drag stuff out. I can't imagine having to have cleaned the trailer out.

Cleaning this house out seems like so much more of a chore.
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1 step forward, .95 steps back.

Furnace was no bueno. Probably...35% efficient. The returns were not connected, what was connected was being choked - oh, and the filter boot cover only stayed on when the furnace was running and creating a suction.

Lots of duct tape holding stuff together that should probably not be secured using only duct tape.
Furnace


Once I took all the duct work out and got into the evap coil, I found out the evap coil pan was broken. It was $50 for a new plastic pan. I opted for a new evap coil all together.

Outside compressor.


Old coal chute perhaps, this was behind the compressor and is the exhaust for the furnace. A rotten piece of plywood. Note: I have a spider problem in my basement.


Since I am going to redo the electricity in the house, I removed the current overhead service with the plan to install an underground service.


Service Removed


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I left off with upgrading the HVAC and ended up removing the overhead electrical service. Photos will be added tomorrow if I get time to stop by the house and take a few.

In the mean time, here is a photo of some hot sauce that will ruin your weekend. It did mine.



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I hope you ate icecream after the sauce.

You are up in the millions in Scoville Units!

Hurry up icecream!!!

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