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Old 09-27-2019, 10:49 AM   #1
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need new garage door opener.. what to do?


Ok, two-car garage with a 7' door. Metal. Detached garage.


1. I'd like it to be somewhat quiet even though it's not attached to the house.
2. From what I read 3/4hp is where I need to be looking
3. outside keypad would be nice--especially if it doesn't need batteries (do they or don't they...not sure of the standard)
4. belt / screw / chain / rope: See #1, but durable.
5. brand? I keep seeing chamberlain come up, but Genie has been around forever. I found a craftsman at Lowes, but amazon didn't even offer that model.
6. Smartphone app: meh. either way. I can always NOT program it to the router.

I found these three.

https://www.amazon.com/Chamberlain-C...=1&s=hi&sr=1-9


https://www.amazon.com/Genie-Stealth...1&s=hi&sr=1-12

https://www.amazon.com/Chamberlain-B...=1&s=hi&sr=1-5

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Ok, two-car garage with a 7' door. Metal. Detached garage.


1. I'd like it to be somewhat quiet even though it's not attached to the house.
2. From what I read 3/4hp is where I need to be looking
3. outside keypad would be nice--especially if it doesn't need batteries (do they or don't they...not sure of the standard)
4. belt / screw / chain / rope: See #1, but durable.
5. brand? I keep seeing chamberlain come up, but Genie has been around forever. I found a craftsman at Lowes, but amazon didn't even offer that model.
6. Smartphone app: meh. either way. I can always NOT program it to the router.


you'd think you could filter this more easily on Amazon but it's not as easy as I thought........
Out side key pads are battery so no one can smash them and cross the wires. Batteries last years.
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Old 09-27-2019, 11:09 AM   #3
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makes perfect sense.

My house is 27 years old, and I am pretty sure the opener that came with it was an upgrade only from steam-powered.

I think I'm over-thinking this and will just consider the Genie.
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@firehawkmph is our garage door guru around here. I know he has some 'go to' openers that he's posted about before, hopefully he'll chime in.
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I've had a Genie opener for about 20 years or so. About two years ago it stopped working and I was able to read the error codes and found that the control board was bad. Contacted Genie and they sent me a new control board ($60) as well as a new motor drive board ($126) for free. Installed them myself and opener is still running today.
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Chamberlain and Liftmaster are the same company and they make Craftsman. I always get/recommend Chamberlain or their clones. Had bad experiences with Genie.

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Chamberlain and Liftmaster are the same company and they make Craftsman. I always get/recommend Chamberlain or their clones. Had bad experiences with Genie.



My experiences with Chamberlain were the polar opposite. Nothing but failures.


Put in several Genie and never had an issue.
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Chamberlain and Liftmaster are the same company and they make Craftsman. I always get/recommend Chamberlain or their clones. Had bad experiences with Genie.

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My experiences with Chamberlain were the polar opposite. Nothing but failures.


Put in several Genie and never had an issue.
Interesting.... I had Genies on one home that lasted for probably 20+ years...but when they failed....Genie help was terrible.

I have liftmaster now...probably 22 years old ....and had a sacrificial plastic gear give out...liftmaster diagnosed/sent the replacement with EXCELLENT easy to understand directions....

So, my leaning is toward liftmaster, but I guess others have had just the opposit experience....so maybe I'd just go with whoever is on sale.
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My Genie has a lifetime warranty. When I had my problem they even registered it for me after not being able to find my information in their files. I was unable to located the original sales receipt or even remember where I bought it, but they honored the warranty and sent me both parts, even though the failure only pointed to one of them being the source of the problem.
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I'd advise against a screw drive and go with a decent chain drive model.

The screw drives aren't as nice as advertised - the motor was quiet on the one I had, but when it first engaged, it would slam the door into motion so hard that the door would think that it had hit something and stop. No matter how I adjusted it, I just couldn't get the thing to work well. It's since been replaced with a (cheaper) chain drive that works way better.
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I prefer Liftmaster openers. Whatever you choose, get a belt drive, they're quiet, maintenance free and very durable. You don't need a 3/4 hp for a single door. 1/2 hp is fine, just make sure your door is in good shape and is easily opened by hand. If you go a notch above the contractor series with Liftmaster, you'll get a nice opener with the wifi feature so you can link it to your smart phone if you like. If you can, try and get one through a garage door wholesaler. The track will be a solid T-shaped steel, one piece, not the hollow 3-4 piece tracks they sell in the box stores. Like Neil said, keypads are wireless, 9 volt battery lasts a long time.
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I like the belt drives. Simple and easy to install like a chain drive but smoother, quieter and in my experience just as durable. But if I had the space I might try one of the jackshaft types to clear the ceiling. Never had one but they are intriguing.
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For quiet smooth operation, what firehawkmph said is important.
Retail tracks are in segments so it fits in the box and a customer's car.
The tracks that installer companies use have larger segments or single solid tracks.
Less wobble = less noise.
Getting the tightness on the chain just right helps quiet it.
How the motor is attached to the garage frame makes a big difference with noise. If you can mount it snugly but also sandwich some dense rubber between the brackets and the garage frame it will be verrry quiet. Still needs to be braced up nice n snug though.
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Check the Home Depot and other website owners reviews for the different models. With Genie they have made chain drive and screw drive and a plastic chain drive and have different levels of durability.

For security you want one with a rolling code so there is no fixed code between the opener and the remote. Newer cars with built-in garage door openers can handle the rolling code type openers.

Openers also vary in whether they lock the door closed when it is down and how easy they are to bypass during a power outage.
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