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Old 12-22-2015, 05:58 PM   #31
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I beg to differ. I installed my Ademco system and have the installer code. IIRC they can always be reset to a default installer code that is given in the manual. It's been 17 years so I don't remember exactly how without going to the manual... but my system is still humming along and I still can access it at will at the installer/admin level. They could never sell these to DIYs if they didn't give you access to the installer codes. Plus, after your contract is up and if you own the equipment the new monitoring company can talk you through making the necessary changes.

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What I'm saying is don't count on diy'ing even if you do sign a contract and STILL believe you have the right to diy. Most people don't know about the installer code and don't know that you CAN'T diy an pro installed system because of that installer code.
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WOW! thought I was a geek (Z2Vlaw) but some of you are borderline something else...

For you normal DIY people looking into home security, Google "Honeywell Vista20p". Lot's of online resource with step by step videos. Next, Google "Envisalink", it's plug n play device that's compatible with Honeywell that connects system to internet, allowing complete control via smartphone, also sends alerts mms/sms/email.
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WOW! thought I was a geek (Z2Vlaw) but some of you are borderline something else...

For you normal DIY people looking into home security, Google "Honeywell Vista20p". Lot's of online resource with step by step videos. Next, Google "Envisalink", it's plug n play device that's compatible with Honeywell that connects system to internet, allowing complete control via smartphone, also sends alerts mms/sms/email.
Haha! Maybe detail-oriented and competitive? Wish you had been around for the older woman who just asked for a recommendation :}
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I beg to differ. I installed my Ademco system and have the installer code.
Not talking about a self installed system. I have my own self installed system complete with my own installer code. What is being referred to here is a PRO install with contract
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WOW! thought I was a geek (Z2Vlaw) but some of you are borderline something else...

For you normal DIY people looking into home security, Google "Honeywell Vista20p". Lot's of online resource with step by step videos. Next, Google "Envisalink", it's plug n play device that's compatible with Honeywell that connects system to internet, allowing complete control via smartphone, also sends alerts mms/sms/email.
I have DSC with envisalink. Great system.
Envisalink is compatible with both DSC and Honeywell
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Haha! Maybe detail-oriented and competitive? Wish you had been around for the older woman who just asked for a recommendation :}
I am all about over engineering (Prior to retirement), now it's about simplicity.

The other day was teaching some highschool kids basic cryptology- Caesar Cipher (ROT13/25 stuff). These kids are already proficient using Python (I started out with punch cards). These kids are extremely detailed... and scary competitive.

like some users here? maybe.....

Let me just say... I can't cut a piece of wood straight with a table saw.

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I just realized while rereading the thread, that maybe I got more than a financial break with having a cop put up my cameras. They covered all windows & doors, porch, both sets of steps, driveway, back orchard roads, each camera covered another, covered car fr 2 angles, main road, woods access, etc, and breaker box!
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LOL, punch cards. I started with those, too. Back then the old joke was to get hold of your roomie's punch card deck and shuffle it! Not sure about kids today.... many of the young 'uns in my extended family are ultimate slackers, way more than we ever were.

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The other day was teaching some highschool kids basic cryptology- Caesar Cipher (ROT13/25 stuff). These kids are already proficient using Python (I started out with punch cards). These kids are extremely detailed... and scary competitive.

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Let me just say... I can't cut a piece of wood straight with a table saw.
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Understand, but when your contract is up and IF you own the equipment, the installer code can be reset. Power down and then on restart there is a key sequence or somesuch. It's been a long time... But the new monitoring company will know how to do it even if the owner doesn't. IOW the equipment is not locked for life to the original installer.

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Understand, but when your contract is up and IF you own the equipment, the installer code can be reset.
Yes. Very much like a cell phone. You have the right to have it unlocked after you have paid for the system and fulfilled the contract. But by then they have made their million and one dollars from you and they don't care.
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I never said anything different.

What I'm saying is don't count on diy'ing even if you do sign a contract and STILL believe you have the right to diy. Most people don't know about the installer code and don't know that you CAN'T diy an pro installed system because of that installer code.
We're violently agreeing.
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I beg to differ. I installed my Ademco system and have the installer code. IIRC they can always be reset to a default installer code that is given in the manual. It's been 17 years so I don't remember exactly how without going to the manual... but my system is still humming along and I still can access it at will at the installer/admin level. They could never sell these to DIYs if they didn't give you access to the installer codes. Plus, after your contract is up and if you own the equipment the new monitoring company can talk you through making the necessary changes.
What you're saying and what your experience is describes how it should be. But I've read plenty of not-quite-horror stories from folks who had the really big name monitoring services or less-than-scrupulous small monitoring services being locked out of their systems.

I don't think anyone implied that these problems always happen; I think the idea was to watch out for these potential issues and discuss system access with your monitoring service before signing the contract - and read the contract to make sure it aligns with what the discussion indicated.
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