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Old 05-11-2019, 07:26 PM   #1
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Is it a trend for stove tops to be smooth top?

Daughters 10 yo Whirlpool suddenly the light said burner was on. No it wasnít !

Burners were off but a big coil sparked an started getting hot all by itself.

This stove came with the house.

Weíre at Lowes an surprised only 4 are coil out of 25.

She cooks a lot with 4 cast iron skillets. We envision her smashing the glass top.
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Old 05-11-2019, 08:00 PM   #2
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I haven't been looking (knock on wood) but I do know my current pots and pans will not do well on a flat top stove, the bottoms are a bit bowed down. Current coil stove is almost 40 years old so it is on borrowed time and i don't look forward to replacing it.

The feature I would really like but haven't seen would be time and temperature controls for all cooking. It is dumb technology just don't see it being added.

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Is it a trend for stove tops to be smooth top?

Daughters 10 yo Whirlpool suddenly the light said burner was on. No it wasn’t !

Burners were off but a big coil sparked an started getting hot all by itself.

This stove came with the house.

We’re at Lowes an surprised only 4 are coil out of 25.

She cooks a lot with 4 cast iron skillets. We envision her smashing the glass top.
Probably, My guess would be that more people like the appearance, and features of the smooth vs the coil stove top.

I'm sure there are pro and cons to them. Big thing I would worry about, as you just stated, would be how easy it is to smash, break or scratch it. I just wouldn't trust myself with one.

However, back to your issue; It appears after 10 years something went wrong. As you mentioned, it is original to the house. I'm sure it could be fixed, but after your lowes trip, I assume you are thinking about replacing it vs fixing it.
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Old 05-11-2019, 08:45 PM   #4
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Im not really sure what sheíll do. She has new AC system scheduled in a few weeks.

But isnít that the way it goes? One thing replaced and immediately something else breaks down.
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Im not really sure what sheíll do. She has new AC system scheduled in a few weeks.

But isnít that the way it goes? One thing replaced and immediately something else breaks down.

Yup. The joys of being a homeowner.
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Burners were off but a big coil sparked an started getting hot all by itself.
Sounds like a switch problem.
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HK, compared to cost of a new range replacing a switch might be worthwhile. I'll pass that on to her. At least I can call and get repair estimates for her.
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The coil that sparked is probably shorting out to ground, or the socket the coil plugs into. It's likely the coil is either 240 volts and the switch only controls one leg. A short to ground would produce a spark, illuminate the burner-on indicator, and heat the element with 120 volts.
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I'm sure there are pro and cons to them.
I'm struggling to come up with many pros with the smooth cooktops.

The best I can do is this: They look great in the showroom, and for the first few days installed. They probably look fine of you never use them, too.

However, if you actually cook, the cons start to take over. First off, anything which spatters or splashes leaves a cooked-on mess. You can't wipe up around the burner until the cooktop cools down. Even if you're very careful not to spatter or splash, just simmering anything in a covered pot will leave marks.

Cleaning it is a project. You need to buy the kit with the abrasive material & holder, scraper and special formula cleaner. It's hard work which has to be done a certain way, and even then it'll never be showroom-new looking.

But that's just the cosmetics. You aren't supposed to slide or spin any pots or pans on the cooktop or you'll scratch it. You can't put a hot pot from an active burner onto an unused burner to cool down or you risk cracking it. You can't use the cooktop for any other food prep.

As mentioned above, any pots need to be perfectly flat on the bottom. If it's even a little convex or concave, things won't cook right.

But worst of all, they take forever to heat up, and again to cool down. I end up turning up the heat a little at a time, trying to get it to temperature. Then suddenly it's too hot, and keeps burning the food while it (way too slowly) cools down. And of course, you can't move the pot to an unused burner briefly while it cools, or you risk cracking that one.

I'll never buy another one, except maybe just before I sell the house.
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Weíve been using the smooth cooktops for the last 20 years or so. We use cast iron most of the time. Weíve not had any issues with scratching it or breaking it. Mind you we donít drop it on there lol. Personally I would prefer a gas cooktop but donít have gas to the home. They put it on my street about 2 years after I built so itís too much work to get gas to it now. I havenít tried the induction cooktops yet but when we go to replace thatís the way we are going to go. Itís not for everyone but the instant heat, cool cooktop and since we already cook with cast iron I thinks thatís the way we should go. I agree with the above poster, it does take longer to heat and cool down. And that does sound like a bad infinite switch for your cooktop


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Oh my gosh
Shes been researching today about induction smooth tops.

It has instant heat then instant cool down. It doesnít waste heat into the kitchen which is best point cause the kitchen gets too hot with a lot of cooking. And it has precise temp adjustments.

BUT, the noise is unbelievable. She is bothered by power line hum. So this noise would drive her batty. I understand it makes that noise all while you use it.
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On farther reading one person said its the type of pan bottom that causes the hum.

Another person said the hum was loud in their kitchen snd installation was blamed. They took their pans to the store and there wasnít the loud hum.

We wondered if the hum was dispersed in a big store plus with shopping carts an people talking it wasn't as noticeable as on a quiet kitchen.
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She cooks a lot with 4 cast iron skillets. We envision her smashing the glass top.



If she loves her cast iron, do not buy a glass top.


Also IMO it takes longer for the glass top to heat any pan. I just don't think they work nearly as well. OTH, they are much easier to keep clean and spills clean up easier.
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She joined Consumer Reports. Itís surprising no stoves get high ratings.

Some of the smooth tops run 1,900

I said iíd buy an inexpensive for now. When it dies maybe induction smooth tops will have more kinks worked out
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What kinks need working out?
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