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Old 05-22-2020, 08:36 AM   #16
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We all have different circumstances and so on, and what's prudent for one is not necessarily prudent for another. So there are a number of good and proper solutions in regard to how we handle various things, and some of those good and proper or right solutions may be in direct contrast to the next persons right solution, but as long as it fits the individual needs it's all good. In regard to tires, as well as batteries, brakes, and other items where wear and time are factors, my opinion is that there is only one way to get the absolute maximum service, and that is to drive it until the tire blows out, the car won't start or stop, or whatever. And the problem is that the tire usually won't blow out with the car parked in the driveway some Friday night so that it can be addressed Saturday morning. No, it blows out on the way to work, church, the grocery store, or wherever, usually at the least opportune time. This is the reason that I generally replace such things when I begin to suspect them, but also understand that I have possibly thrown away some money over the years in doing this, so, at a minimum, a thorough inspection is in order, and take it from there. But I'm not going to start playing the odds of it's on the front or the back, or it's on the curb side, and figure nobody will get hurt too bad so it's okay.
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Old 05-22-2020, 08:57 AM   #17
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And you don't have to replace with Michelin tires.
That's for sure in this situation. As the vehicle probably now only gets 6k miles a year, any high milage tire is going to age rot before it wears out.
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A blowout on the front is much more likely to cause a loss of control or a rollover.



Anyway, a question I forgot to ask is whether yours are run on flat (ROF) tires. Some of the newer vehicles came with those as OE.

Thanks. I will add your opinion to the various opinions I looked into. I am not going to bother listing sites, it seems everyone has an opinion on this. While I don't believe you were asking me if I had ROF tires when I had my blow out, just in case, no, regular tire. Can't remember the brand.
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Old 05-22-2020, 01:22 PM   #19
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I've only had 2 blowouts, once while my truck was parked and the other time it was a snow tire sitting along side of the barn. I'm not sure when that one blew.


I think the main reason I've not had blowouts is because I keep the tires aired up and inspect them periodically .... and on my personal vehicles I tend to run the tires until it's no longer safe to do so.
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While I don't believe you were asking me if I had ROF tires when I had my blow out,

I was asking the OP. Having a blowout with a run-flat tire doesn't pose as much risk, due to the drag not being as significant (so it doesn't pull to the side as badly) and the rim isn't going drop onto the pavement and possibly dig in, as can happen when a regular tire blows out.
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Old 05-23-2020, 08:31 AM   #21
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If you don't have anti-lock brakes be careful of the tires you buy.

I bought a set of michelin tires and the pattern was across the tire instead running with.

The tires were only 3 weeks old
I had to slam on the brakes to avoid hitting the car in front of me.
The tread pattern collapsed and created a permanent flat spot on all four tires causing the vehicle to ride in an up-down way.

michelin the manufacturer was not going to honor their 30 day money back if not completely satisfied warranty.
Just think, if this would have happened after the thirty days I would have been stuck with four new WORTHLESS TIRES.

I posted this situation on 4 DIY sites and several forums.

I no longer do business with michelin period.
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If you don't have anti-lock brakes be careful of the tires you buy.

I bought a set of michelin tires and the pattern was across the tire instead running with.

The tires were only 3 weeks old
I had to slam on the brakes to avoid hitting the car in front of me.
The tread pattern collapsed and created a permanent flat spot on all four tires causing the vehicle to ride in an up-down way.

michelin the manufacturer was not going to honor their 30 day money back if not completely satisfied warranty.
Just think, if this would have happened after the thirty days I would have been stuck with four new WORTHLESS TIRES.

I posted this situation on 4 DIY sites and several forums.

I no longer do business with michelin period.
Michelin isn't the only tire company with tread designs like that, and any tire will get a flat spot if you lock up the tires at any appreciable speed. I really don't see how this is their fault in any way.

Like getting mad that you blew a shock because you hit a huge pothole.
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Old 05-23-2020, 09:15 AM   #23
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Not the concern of the OP, but I've discovered that many all-season tires (including Michelins) manage to get their stellar rating for ice and snow traction combined with a long treadlife warranty by using different tread compounds for the outer half of the tread and deeper part. So, you get a softer compound with better grip for the first 30,000 miles or so, until the outer layer is worn off, then your ice traction goes to crap as you get to the harder rubber compound that gets it the 80,000 mile treadlife. Something to watch out for if ice and snow traction is important to you - there's no free lunch - you don't get a tire that will last 80,000 miles with good ice and snow traction for the whole 80,000 miles. I've found a few reasonably priced tires that are really good on ice and snow...for about 40,000 miles. I just replace them at that point. No reason to spend twice as much on Michelins or some of the Continental, Bridgestone, Goodyear, or Yokohama models, to get that long mileage warranty if it's going to be like driving on plastic wheels the last 40k miles. According to Tirerack's consumer surveys, almost all Pirelli and Falken tires are no good on ice and snow at all.


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Old 05-24-2020, 01:58 AM   #24
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Michelin isn't the only tire company with tread designs like that, and any tire will get a flat spot if you lock up the tires at any appreciable speed. I really don't see how this is their fault in any way.

Like getting mad that you blew a shock because you hit a huge pothole.
Your kidding right.


Because michelin as with some others companies claim to be great tires for braking to keep people safe and still stay tough for the expected life of the tire.

$500 + dollars per tire and the first time you slam on the brakes their junk.



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think it also depends if the car is FWD or RWD,
it's the driven wheels I think is bad on a blow out

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A blowout on the front is much more likely to cause a loss of control or a rollover.



Anyway, a question I forgot to ask is whether yours are run on flat (ROF) tires. Some of the newer vehicles came with those as OE.
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The wheels that have the least traction usually take the lead, that's been proven. So in the case of a blowout which is it going to be on which vehicle, FWD, AWD, 4WD or 1WD on a bicycle or motorcycle. I doubt you'll find any accurate research on blowouts. Roll the dice.
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