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Old 05-29-2015, 03:05 AM   #16
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My wife is so smart. At one time she always used ammonia to clean. Then she heard Phyllis Diller's quote. It went something like this.

"House cleaning may not kill you but why take the chance"


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Any milk or chaulk paint that doesn't provide the same scrubbability as modern latex paints do won't stay popular for long.

Fads come and go, but for anything to remain popular, it has to be practical, economical and durable. I don't have any experience with milk or chaulk paints, but my expectation would be that they wouldn't stand up well to hard scrubbing to remove stubborn marks. Regardless of how trendy such a paint might look, if it's not practical and durable, it's not going to stay popular.
The other advantages of calcimine over any latex or synthetic paint is that it breathes far better and is antifungal. It's problem is that only certain substrates are suitable.

Silicate, however, another mineral paint, can be purchased mixed with regular synthetic binder and can be painted over nearly anything. And you still have the antifungal/better breathing qualities
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Any milk or chaulk paint that doesn't provide the same scrubbability as modern latex paints do won't stay popular for long.

Fads come and go, but for anything to remain popular, it has to be practical, economical and durable. I don't have any experience with milk or chaulk paints, but my expectation would be that they wouldn't stand up well to hard scrubbing to remove stubborn marks. Regardless of how trendy such a paint might look, if it's not practical and durable, it's not going to stay popular.
The fad thing is why I won't stock it. I got stuck with $7000.00 of Modern Masters faux finish paint and supplies once because my district manager made me order it. Sold two quarts in 5 years.
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Yeah, faux finishes were another fad of the 90's, and have pretty much run their course.
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Faux finishes are purely cosmetic, though, whereas other paints have practical advantages.

I mean back in the day I'm sure alkyd looked like a fad too, yet its been popular for 50 years...
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Milk paint and chalk paints don't have any practical advantage that I can see. Other than being another way for people to destroy a valuable, original finish patina. Like putting stick-on turbo emblems on an Aston Martin DB7.
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What patina? You can apply calcimine or silicate to new or old walls. They breathe umpteen times better and prevent mildew at the same time...
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What patina? You can apply calcimine or silicate to new or old walls. They breathe umpteen times better and prevent mildew at the same time...
Sorry I was talking about the people that use it on furniture and what not.
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I use this mostly.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/SAVOGRAN-...0632/205491255

It says "no rinse", but in practice of course you're going to have to at least a little. You have to get the dirt off the walls somehow.

If I can make a mess, I spray it on with a tank sprayer. You can usually see the brownish gunk just dripping down the walls or trim after it's had a couple minutes to work. Then clean it up with a rinsed sponge or sponge mop.

The stuff seems to leave a surface that paint actually sticks to better than the bare walls. In other words, you don't have to rinse to the same extent as real TSP, so you are probably leaving a little residue of the stuff on the walls. It could be my imagination, but that little residue seems to be great to paint over.

Honestly I don't know if this stuff is the same thing or not.
http://www.homedepot.com/p/SAVOGRAN-...0611/202967451

But the liquid is certainly easier to work with. The bottle is also marked in 8 ounce increments for easy mixing ratios.
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