How To Restain A Wooden Front Door With Rough Texture - Painting - DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum
Advertisement


Go Back   DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum > Home Improvement > Painting

CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!

Like Tree5Likes
Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Display Modes
Old 07-31-2020, 06:24 PM   #1
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 18
Rewards Points: 36
Default

How to restain a wooden front door with rough texture


Our wooden front door needs to be re-stained desperately. Typically, I would sand down the door and then stain, but the texture of the wood is rough and doesn't look like it would take well to being sanded. Could I apply a stain without sanding first?



Any ideas on how to brighten up the black kick plate that has dulled over time?


Thanks for the advice!
Attached Thumbnails
How to restain a wooden front door with rough texture-img_20200731_170717015.jpg   How to restain a wooden front door with rough texture-img_20200731_170740925_mp.jpg   How to restain a wooden front door with rough texture-img_20200731_170754577.jpg  
coloradomtn is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 07-31-2020, 07:19 PM   #2
Exterior Construction
 
Windows on Wash's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Washington DC Metro Area (VA, MD, DC)
Posts: 25,311
Rewards Points: 14,402
Blog Entries: 41
Default

Re: How to restain a wooden front door with rough texture


Is it easy enough to take it off the hinges? That will be much easier on a set of saw horses.
Windows on Wash is online now   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 07-31-2020, 08:46 PM   #3
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 18
Rewards Points: 36
Default

Re: How to restain a wooden front door with rough texture


Quote:
Originally Posted by Windows on Wash View Post
Is it easy enough to take it off the hinges? That will be much easier on a set of saw horses.

Unfortunately, not for me. I'm a 5ft nothing female so I think one of the doors weighs more than me.
coloradomtn is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 08-01-2020, 05:49 AM   #4
retired painter
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: east tenn
Posts: 9,228
Rewards Points: 462
Default

Re: How to restain a wooden front door with rough texture


I doubt the wood will take stain evenly without being sanded smooth first. How long has it been since the door was previously finished? If the color on the metal can't be restored with cleaning you'd need to paint them.
mark sr is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2020, 07:24 AM   #5
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Hartfield VA
Posts: 36,976
Rewards Points: 19,092
Default

Re: How to restain a wooden front door with rough texture


It likely looks like that because it was allowed to go way to long before refinishing.
A Random orbital sander with 60 grit paper to start with would not take that long to get it flat again.
All that old sealer on the rest of the parts would also have to be sanded off before staining.
For a finish sealer the only one I would use is Bristol Finish.
http://bristolfinish.us/
It's avalible on EBAY and Amazon.
It's not cheap, but it for sure is the best.
It has 5 times the UV protection that Min Wax marine spar has.
It's self leveling, fast drying, high build up.
I would use no less the 3 layers of it for max protection.
That black piece at the bottom looks like a sweep, not a kick plate.
It could be cleaned, masked off then repainted, but then it would not match all the other oxidized metal.
mark sr likes this.
__________________
When posting in forums, letting us know your location will help others give better feedback/advice/solutions to your questions
joecaption is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2020, 07:30 AM   #6
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 13,021
Rewards Points: 7,046
Default

Re: How to restain a wooden front door with rough texture


The un-even ( splotchy ) degrading of the finish may prevent an even take on the new stain, but a more successful staining of a darker color might possibly overcome some of that. NOTE: SeniorSitizen said might.



Being Lacquer is a popular finish for manufacturers, even exterior being they don't care, at minimum i would give it a good cleaning with a well saturated lacquer thinner cloth and elbow grease before attempting a stain. Take safety precautions with the lacquer thinner, synthetic gloves and an abundance of air movement at minimum.




Edit: Edit:
SeniorSitizen is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2020, 10:13 AM   #7
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: North Carolina, USA
Posts: 5,448
Rewards Points: 7,136
Default

Re: How to restain a wooden front door with rough texture


I think the easiest way to solve this would be to use the stain-and-poly-in-one formulas, such as



https://www.minwax.com/wood-products...wax-polyshades
jeffnc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2020, 10:15 AM   #8
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: North Carolina, USA
Posts: 5,448
Rewards Points: 7,136
Default

Re: How to restain a wooden front door with rough texture


Quote:
Originally Posted by joecaption View Post
That black piece at the bottom looks like a sweep, not a kick plate.

They put a sweep at the bottom of the door divider too?
jeffnc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2020, 10:17 AM   #9
Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 13,021
Rewards Points: 7,046
Default

Re: How to restain a wooden front door with rough texture


That black thing is a Labyrinth seal.
SeniorSitizen is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2020, 10:25 AM   #10
retired painter
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: east tenn
Posts: 9,228
Rewards Points: 462
Default

Re: How to restain a wooden front door with rough texture


Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffnc View Post
I think the easiest way to solve this would be to use the stain-and-poly-in-one formulas, such as



https://www.minwax.com/wood-products...wax-polyshades

Tinted polys have their place but can be difficult to apply correctly. It's easier to make a mess of it than do it right. AND tinted poly will do nothing to resolve the rough texture.
mark sr is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2020, 10:30 AM   #11
Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Hartfield VA
Posts: 36,976
Rewards Points: 19,092
Default

Re: How to restain a wooden front door with rough texture


No way would I ever use the suggested Polyshades for any project!!
I've tried it and it came out horrible and there's been hundreds of post about the bad results on this and any DIY site.
It also has no UV protection, and almost no wear protection.
__________________
When posting in forums, letting us know your location will help others give better feedback/advice/solutions to your questions
joecaption is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2020, 10:35 AM   #12
retired painter
 
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: east tenn
Posts: 9,228
Rewards Points: 462
Default

Re: How to restain a wooden front door with rough texture


I've used a good bit of tinted poly [mostly homemade] over the yrs. It is not forgiving but there are times when it's the best way to get the desired look. It's best to apply it over sealed wood [not raw wood trying to skip a step] and apply a coat of clear poly over it to protect the color from wear.




If I remember correctly PolyShades is rated for interior use only.
mark sr is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2020, 11:47 AM   #13
Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: North Carolina, USA
Posts: 5,448
Rewards Points: 7,136
Default

Re: How to restain a wooden front door with rough texture


Quote:
Originally Posted by mark sr View Post
Tinted polys have their place but can be difficult to apply correctly. It's easier to make a mess of it than do it right. AND tinted poly will do nothing to resolve the rough texture.

First of all, I've used this product several times and it's always come out great. It's basically poly, and it's hard to imagine how you guys are having trouble applying poly.

With regard to the rough texture, that was the whole point of my suggestion - I said it was the easiest solution as it will go right over the rough texture with no sanding and refinishing required.

However, you are right that it's intended for interior use only - I forgot about that. So it's a non-starter.
jeffnc is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2020, 12:26 PM   #14
Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2018
Posts: 1,212
Rewards Points: 2,218
Default

Re: How to restain a wooden front door with rough texture


On rough surfaces soda blast, seal with shipnshore, apply stain, top coat with GF exterior 450 or equivilent spar varnish/urethane.


If you can't blast, clean the surface with a mild detergent, treat the black oxidzed parts with oxalic acid. gel stain, then top coat.


polyshades on an exterior door? no thanks.
cocomonkeynuts is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-01-2020, 01:41 PM   #15
Newbie
 
Join Date: Jun 2020
Posts: 18
Rewards Points: 36
Default

Re: How to restain a wooden front door with rough texture


Thanks everyone for the advice. The house is 8 years old and the door has never been restained. The rough texture of the wood is part of the design of the door and been like that since new. There are sections of the door where the wood is smooth and sections that have textured wood. The door has weathered over the years but the textures have stayed the same.


The soda blasting idea sounds interesting. I'll research this more.



In the meantime, I'll give the door a very good clean with mild detergent and treat the black metal with oxalic acid. If it comes up ok, I'll likely try a gel stain and top coat. It was good to read that gel stains don't require you to sand the door back to it's original wood.
coloradomtn is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off





Top of Page | View New Posts