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Old 05-08-2019, 06:58 AM   #1
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Some people don't like to follow rules.

It seems the Dude on the right refused to listen to the manager at the gas station so his " fire" got put out.

Notice the guy on the left is pumping gas and there must be gas fumes in the air.

I wonder if he legally has the right to spray him and could get away with that in North America? This occurred in Bulgaria.

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No, I don't think he handled that very well, but he did get the message across. If he had just pointed the extinguisher at him I think he would have gotten the message.

The basic issue (sorry if I offend some) is that smokers don't listen to ANYONE, let alone read the rules.

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Not that I want to offend any Bulgarians or Slovaks or Slavs but different "cultures" and " areas " may tend to do " things " differently.

My Mom's cousin lives in Slovakia ( Mom was born there ) and during Communist times he said the cops would take the law into their own hands. Caught drunk driving?? >> they would beat the heck out of you so you did not do it again and they would get away with it. Maybe you did not do it again and that is a good thing IMO.

I would hope the judge would say yeah he did not have the right to spray him but would let it go as it definitely was a safety issue. Maybe in some countries people don't think they will get sued right away and will take some "action" and the law will side with them.

I think there should be SEVERE penalties and a no tolerance policy for drunk driving. What do other people think about this?
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Legally no he has no right. Morally yes!


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We should all follow the rules and in most places it is the law. But don't get excited unless he is lighting the smoke.
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Yeah there are limits of flammability/proper fuel to air mixture for ignition.

With natural gas it is 4-14% if I remember my trade school lessons. Meaning if you have 50% oxygen and 50% gas in a room it won't explode. Needs to be 4-14% gas and the rest oxygen.

To get the exact combo of fumes and oxygen and the right temp from the cigarette is not that easy. However it is not something to fool around with.

I saw a gas station on fire once and it is a helluva sight.
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Yeah there are limits of flammability/proper fuel to air mixture for ignition.

With natural gas it is 4-14% if I remember my trade school lessons. Meaning if you have 50% oxygen and 50% gas in a room it won't explode. Needs to be 4-14% gas and the rest oxygen.

To get the exact combo of fumes and oxygen and the right temp from the cigarette is not that easy. However it is not something to fool around with.

I saw a gas station on fire once and it is a helluva sight.
Most times the problem is static sparks and spilled gas.
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I think he handled it perfectly, but then again....I'm an a$$hole, so...ya know. If you're old enough to drive then you should know better...if you don't, you get what you get.

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"If we see you smoking, we will assume you are on fire and take appropriate life saving measures....you have been warned and notified....you're welcome."
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We should all follow the rules and in most places it is the law. But don't get excited unless he is lighting the smoke.
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He drops ash thru the window, first thing & takes a puff. Are you saying it wasn't lit?

Possibly the gas station guy was talking to them from the right, not on camera.
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He drops ash thru the window, first thing & takes a puff. Are you saying it wasn't lit?

Possibly the gas station guy was talking to them from the right, not on camera.
No, it is very close to impossible light gasoline with a burning smoke. But a lighter or match would be a different story.
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The point is when it says NO SMOKING it means don't light one up either. How much further do we need to spell everything out to these dumbazzes.

Not it is OK to smoke an existing one.

Like the joke I heard.

Dude is flying thru the sky and sees Saint Peter while flying upwards ( hopefully ).

St. Peter says to him do you know anything about God and Heaven?

No he says, but do you know anything about barbecues.
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Not that I want to offend any Bulgarians or Slovaks or Slavs but different "cultures" and " areas " may tend to do " things " differently.

My Mom's cousin lives in Slovakia ( Mom was born there ) and during Communist times he said the cops would take the law into their own hands. Caught drunk driving?? >> they would beat the heck out of you so you did not do it again and they would get away with it. Maybe you did not do it again and that is a good thing IMO.

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I think there should be SEVERE penalties and a no tolerance policy for drunk driving. What do other people think about this?
Re: Drunk driving. I would prefer they impound and crush the vehicle.
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No, it is very close to impossible light gasoline with a burning smoke. But a lighter or match would be a different story.
But, do you want to take the chance?

After all the fires here, I'm starting to fear fkre more. I can't even spell it, apparently. I never enjoyed Burn care.

The way I see statistics is that you may be that 0.01%.
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Re: Drunk driving. I would prefer they impound and crush the vehicle.
Not going to happen. (With most people) the bank has a sizeable stake in the car in question. I know, it should be "well they should have thought about that before they drove drunk...so now they can pay for a car that's smashed a foot thick". I agree in theory, but the fact of it is that most people wouldn't. They quit paying on the loan, the bank's collateral is smashed to bits, and the only thing that takes a hit (other than the bank missing their money) is the person's credit...and some people just don't care.

Similarly, when you commit any felony with your vehicle and you own it outright, they seize it. If it's got a loan on it, they don't. <---So I've heard...I'm no lawyer, and I've never had it happen to me to know for sure.
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But, do you want to take the chance?

After all the fires here, I'm starting to fear fkre more. I can't even spell it, apparently. I never enjoyed Burn care.

The way I see statistics is that you may be that 0.01%.
Like I said we should follow the rules regardless.
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