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Old 05-01-2019, 10:40 PM   #31
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I have a 3-ring binder with 2012 to 2014 medical records. It was supposed to be all records prior to my 2014 request but 2 years is all they gave me, I suspect they tossed everything else or it remains stored in paper form somewhere beyond reach. I made the request because they were switching to electronic records and I suspected not all would make it, I was right. I will be repeating that request to at least get everything from 2014 to current added to my binder. They give me a CD but I print it out.

My purpose is, those are MY records and if I keep a copy I can go to any doctor I want without worry as to what this practice chooses to save.

I did look at my BP back in 2012 to 2014 and it was in the 140's range so not a lifetime of super high numbers. I don't remember when they mover the bar years ago when 100 plus your age was considered normal.

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Old 05-01-2019, 10:45 PM   #32
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Try, if you can, to learn as much as you can about all your frailties and ailments. Talk to your doctors, and listen, but be sure they listen to you.

If they get *****y that you'd ask questions, search for another doctor, but, as our resident health professional @Nik333 duly notes, don't squawk to their successors about it.
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Old 05-02-2019, 03:38 AM   #33
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My doctor always grumps at me that he has to do all my tests personally. The "hired hands" can't deal with me. - My synesthesia messes up my bodies chemical signals and everything is a bit haywire. I typically have low blood pressure, low temp readings, and a "far to cheerful disposition." He jokes that I'm a zombie/vampire and threatens me with drawing blood to "bring me back to life" - stupid phobias...
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Old 05-02-2019, 08:14 AM   #34
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Ok, I think I may have found the discrepancy between my BP readings at my wrist and the doctors numbers at my upper arm, they are supposed to be different. We are both correct but the medical establishment has chosen to reference the readings at the upper arm.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10225644
If I'm reading that link correctly my readings are about 75% of what the upper are will say. It stinks as a 150 at my wrist would be 200 at the upper arm.

So, not only have they lowered the target but I now have to look at an even lower number to reach that target. If that 75% is correct I would have to reach 105 just to equal their 140 which they still say is high.

Can anyone give this a reality check?
Are wrist numbers really 75% of upper arm?

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Bud: I take 2 of these daily, one of it's benefits is lowering BP, as well as controlling weight a little.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pure-Green-...ss!82644!US!-1

Try it, and see how you do.

I too have been ordered by Dr. to be watchful of it.

I Have a checkup tomorrow, and will know how mine is.


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Me again

Apparently I'm reading that article wrong as other articles conclude that forearm readings should be higher than upper arm and mine are just the opposite.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4129906/
BP values of the two measuring locations (mmHg)
Upper arm = 127.9
Forearm = 145.2

(it wouldn't let me copy the chart but it is in the link)

So the difference between my wrist readings and their upper arm reading is even greater than I previously was thinking.

I'll be checking to see what local stores have for upper arm cuffs today and if reasonable I will pick one up.

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Id' be wary of anything read in an online article, not even co-called actual journalists research anything anymore, they just blog and hope no one calls them on it >.<
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Bud: I take 2 of these daily, one of it's benefits is lowering BP, as well as controlling weight a little.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pure-Green-...ss!82644!US!-1

Try it, and see how you do.

I too have been ordered by Dr. to be watchful of it.

I Have a checkup tomorrow, and will know how mine is.


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Well, sorry to be dominating this thread but this issue has been stomping on my hot button. Just returned from WM where I picked up an Omron 7 upper arm digital BP meter sized to fit my arm, best they had. Didn't run any lights (we don't have many) but hurried home to test. First reading without waiting was 154/86.

Switched to my old writs meter and took 4 readings and they averaged 172/91.
Retested with new upper arm meter and got 161/81.

From my reading this is EXACTLY what I should be getting, slightly higher readings with my wrist meter.

I will test again tomorrow morning when I'm a little more settled, wound up right now. If those results are similar I will stop in to my primary care to test both meters alongside theirs.

Besides them yelling at me every time they come up with high readings, the 200's, I'm trying to get a broken tooth extracted and they won't do the surgery while my BP is too high, they come up with the same numbers as all other places. When I point to my numbers they discount them because they were taken at the forearm.

I will get my nurse daughter to test before I go in, she works in the cardiac department of a local big hospital. Of course I won't mention her name to them.

BTW, that Omron is slick, just hope it is right.

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Id' be wary of anything read in an online article, not even co-called actual journalists research anything anymore, they just blog and hope no one calls them on it >.<
Agreed, but I do try to sort out the answers from several links. From what my new meter is telling me, 2 hospitals, 2 dentists, the kidney specialists, the cardiologists, and my primary care are all wrong. That's going to be a tough sell, even I don't believe it is possible.

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I used to check my BP at the grocery store. My Dr said while it may not be accurate, over time it would give me an average. My kids got me an $80 Omron which I use a few times a week.

My Dr also told me not to read anything on the internet except Mayo Clinic site. I have White Coat syndrome too. I said my bp is under control so why should it matter just cause I'm in a Dr office and its up. He said the fact that it goes up, for any reason, is important.

They always see me soon as I'm in the office, after rushing across the parking lot and hurrying into the building. What I do now is get there early but don't tell them, and I sit quietly, breathing slowly before going into the office.

My BP isn't suppose to go over 118. The dystolic number is always around 65 and my pulse the same.

My Omron is 3 yrs old. My instructions say not to take bp after eating or drinking and not if you need to use the bathroom.

Let us know how you're doing.
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Agreed, but I do try to sort out the answers from several links. From what my new meter is telling me, 2 hospitals, 2 dentists, the kidney specialists, the cardiologists, and my primary care are all wrong. That's going to be a tough sell, even I don't believe it is possible.

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Do you mean what the reading on the meter is or the meter literature? Machine have a + or - error. Plus everything affects your BP.

I 've most often heard the wall sphygnomanometer is the most accurate. That's what everyone reaches for if a machine's result is off.
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If they get *****y that you'd ask questions, search for another doctor, but, as our resident health professional @Nik333 duly notes, don't squawk to their successors about it.
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Do you mean what the reading on the meter is or the meter literature? Machine have a + or - error. Plus everything affects your BP.

I 've most often heard the wall sphygnomanometer is the most accurate. That's what everyone reaches for if a machine's result is off.
I realize there can be variations in results from different meters as well as activity and preparation to take readings, but not 50 points and that seems to be the difference between my home readings and their office readings.

My new meter removes the question of wrist vs upper arm and I doubt my readings are more than a few points off of what the office machine should be getting. Next step will be get my machine into the same room as theirs.

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Question, is it normal for a nurse checking my BP to have to place the bulb on the exam table next to us and use her body weight and hand to pump up the cuff? Sure seemed like it was hard for her.
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Bud: That nurse might have Carpal Tunnel syndrome, might be older, and weaker than younger ladies, might be many other reasons that she needed to squeeze the bulb in an odd way.

But no, it's not normal.


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