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Old 05-17-2019, 10:00 AM   #1
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Powder Actuated gun recommendation


I've got to drive about 100 ITS joist hangers into the top flange of a steel i-beam. Engineer calls out Simpson PDPAT fasteners blasted through the flange. So thats about 200 shots.

So the simpson literature obviously calls out the Simpson PT-27 tool, but I'm wondering if I can use a Hilti or Ramset tools to fire these PDPAT pins? Are they all compatible with one another?

If so, any recommendations? I'm not a professional so I'll likely get something used or not super expensive, but I'd rather buy something because I'm always running into situations where I need a gun.
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No advice on the gun, but whenever we've had steel I beam in a house it was always a sandwich with wood and we could attach the hangers to the wood part. You might want to check with the engineer to see if that's an acceptable alternative.
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Old 05-17-2019, 12:08 PM   #3
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The beam should have been pre drilled for bolts and mounted 1 1/2" lower so you bolt a 2x? on top. Never had to shoot steel.
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The beam is 14" high. The I-Joists are 14" high. There's no room to drop the beam 14"
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The beam is 14" high. The I-Joists are 14" high. There's no room to drop the beam 14"
The the beam should have had the web drilled to fill with 2x12 so you could face hang the joists. This was up to the engineer. Now you will nail heads under your sheeting. With wood there you can beat the nails down.
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Old 05-17-2019, 04:00 PM   #6
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Ayuh,..... I ran into something like that a few years ago,.....

I welded the brackets on with my mig welder, 'n flux core filler wire,......
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Around here on-site welding requires a special inspection (i.e. I have to hire an engineer to come watch me weld on 100 hangars). Plus you can't weld the ITS hangars which are so much faster on I-Joists because you don't have to put web stiffeners at the ends. The I-Joists just click in.
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A good powder actuated gun is pretty expensive, (in my opinion), and if you don't to expect to use it in the future, it is better to rent one and generally the shots and pins are fairly priced there, too.
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