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Old 04-16-2018, 10:42 AM   #1
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What's the technical name for - planner/remodeler/designer/contractor


The current house my gf and I are in has a lot of good things about it, but also has a couple big negatives as well. In order to address these negatives, a major remodel would have to be done. I've done quite a bit of DIY work, but not well versed enough to know which of these large remodel ideas are feasible and to estimate a dollar amount.

What's the technical name for someone who evaluates a current space and suggests design ideas and magnitude of cost? Would it be a remodeling contractor that does a free in-home evaluation with his/her design ideas and project estimate? Or are we looking for someone with a title closer to a designer or architect that would have to be paid for a few hours to mock up a a couple floor plans?
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If aesthetics are the primary concern, start with a interior designer. Then with his/her ideas that suit, they will tell you how many physical changes will have to be made and then most likely refer you to an architect. The architect has to have something to work from, which will be the designers recommendations.
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To the best of my knowledge, there is not necessarily a specialist by name that encompasses potentially all your considerations.... and most people do not do all that work for free. Sorry

For material reenovations/additions you would probably need an architect, who will employ an structural engineer as necessary. The architect will have potential design flow and function ideas.

For relatively minor specific renovations, maybe opening a wall, a general contractor specializing/performing renovations, may have design capabilitys or not.... and may extend rough ballpark estimates for you for free.

And for interior design, furnishings and possibly some minor modifications, many interior designers will extend their ideas... some maybe for free, others with a design charge.

Good luck

Do you have a budget in mind... that might give us a feel of how extensive your preliminary ideas encompass.
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Do you have a budget in mind... that might give us a feel of how extensive your preliminary ideas encompass.
Originally, we were trying to evaluate how far $20-30k would get us or if we're looking at $50k+ easily. I started drawing up a layout though and may have answered my own question - it would definitely be way higher in price.

This is what we're working with:


Main complaints are that 1) garage is small, 2) two narrow, small bathrooms back-to-back are awkward to maneuver in, 3) kitchen is a galley type, narrow, and just a bit tight to work in. The stairway and fireplace in the layout form a complete wall that sections off the kitchen, living room, and dining room into different areas.

In order to address all of these we would have to 1) expand garage to 28' deep, add 4' wide alcove adjacent to house, 2) build home addition next to dining room with a bathroom, 3) combine two existing bathrooms into a single good size, 4) rearrange kitchen. Even then, not sure the kitchen would be able to be modified to be a bigger floor plan based on possible basement staircase locations. Something like this:



We would basically be looking to hire out all foundation, structural, and exterior shell work. The majority of the interior work like bathroom installing/remodeling, kitchen cabinet/appliance install, electrical, and plumbing would be done by us, which makes it mostly material cost there.

On the other hand, current market prices for a house in the area with a "close-to-desired" layout are near $300k and our house has an appraisal value of $225k. I can see why less desirable starter homes become long term houses where nuisances are just put up with. It's very expensive to do major remodels and get maybe 2/3 of what you want, but it's very expensive to pay selling/buying closing costs, a typically higher priced home, inconvenience (cost and logistics) of moving.

Rough pricing thoughts.
Hired out:
200 sqft of crawl space to accommodate bathroom addition plumbing - $15/ sq ft - $3000
200 sqft of slab/foundation for garage expansion - $10/sq ft - $2000
Garage teardown/material haulaway - $2500-3000
Bathroom and mudroom addition (shell only) - $40/sq ft x 200 - $8000

DIY:
Garage rebuild (similar sized kit with siding, roofing, trusses, etc) - $7000

Thinking $23000 + 15% overhead = $26.5k for essentially the foundation and shell for this plan. Then material costs for installing one bathroom, remodeling the other, garage finishing work, kitchen layout overhaul. Add another $4-5k per bathroom, garage finishing $3-4k, kitchen remodel $10-12k, probably $15-17k including all new appliances.

That would bump to around $55-60k when all said and done, with taking on a LOT of the work as DIY. Obviously the timeline can be staggered. Foundation/shell now, bathroom addition few years down the road, kitchen in another few years. But once again, these are all looking at averages found online combined with budgets from previous projects. No clue if I'm even in the ballpark with these numbers.
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You know what you want, have the skills to lay it out. All you need is a good contractor to do the work per your plan. (3 bids at least) No need in paying anyone for drawings or designs. As long as your drawings will pass for the AHJ permits needed and they do not have to be engineered stamped. .
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I'll vote with Gregsold truck79. Any decent remodeling contractor can figure out what to rearrange to achieve what you want and develop pricing for it. Some have more design flair than others, but you don't need an architect or an interior designer cause you already know what you want to do.

Around here (central Florida) I would just Google "home remodeling" and quickly get a dozen names. There are also websites that hep with ideas and finding contractors, e.g. Thisoldhouse.com and houseadvisor.com .
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Hey Bingle......

You are selling yourself short with your first question....

You Buddy, are not such a new neophyte.... You have some good ideas and are considering good/valid points.

As to the specific issues/costs/investment considerations, those become both very personal and local dependent.

Generally speaking, I think you might be a little optomistic on costs, but by the same token, you also sound smart enough to know how to shop around and probably can cut or maintain costs pretty well for your area.... nd I don't know your MI area at all.

But ... you are evaluating exactly what you should be. That's great.
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You have some good ideas and really sound like you know the basics but I really think you need to reconsider your idea of only having one bathroom. You will certainly regret that in the long run. Even if you just put in 1/2 bath you definitely need another bathroom.
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Just my opinion.

Sell the place and go get the one you really want.

You will never get your money back.

It will consume all your time.

Maybe even cause problems in the relationship do to down time of doing it yourself.
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You seem to know enough about it to hire out the excavation, concrete work, and framing separately. The specialists don't have much deference for residential remodeling contractors anyway, they're not exactly the top of the food chain. You'll need some plans and someone to stamp them to get permits, if required. Contractors get a blanket discount to invoiced prices. If you plan to work with a local supplier, see if you can negotiate a rate.

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