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Old 06-18-2019, 12:38 AM   #16
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I know you've made your decision, but I agree with the bottom one too. But my reason is I like the sink being convenient to both the fridge and the range.


One question though. Is there a window on the wall? That would be a game changer for me. I gotta have a window over the sink.
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^ True story. Sometimes I think it's less about the window than not having upper cabinets though. Like I could survive just having a pretty picture/architectural feature to look at over the sink, but it's a super convenient place to have a window to let in natural light.
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I know you've made your decision, but I agree with the bottom one too. But my reason is I like the sink being convenient to both the fridge and the range.


One question though. Is there a window on the wall? That would be a game changer for me. I gotta have a window over the sink.
No such luck. This is an attached building with windows in the front and the back.
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A designer made a slight variation on the current idea. A U-shape the kitchen.


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[LIST][*]The U-shape compartmentalizes the kitchen. It defines the kitchen space. The L-shape felt like a wall of cabinets.[*]It increases the NON-peninsula countertop space from 5' to 8'3". 65% increase[*]It shortens the overall length of the kitchen by 6".[*]Uses up some "semi-dead" space of that hallway

The hallway b/w the washer dryer closet & the bathroom goes from 71" to 51".

I'm going to contact my cabinet guy and see what cabinet size options are available. The other thing I worry about is how are the countertop guys going to get 2 large pieces of countertop up to the 3rd floor. I might have to break it out into 3 pieces. I'm thinking quartz or corian (I'm going to live in this unit for at least 3 years so I want it to be nice).


Here's my layout along with some virtual pics. The virtual pics has my dishwasher to the left of the sink. I'm going to put the sink to the right of the sink.
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Idea stolen. What color cabinets? About the refrige. My parents have same bottom frige and it does not pull out full. About 80% and it is not convenient. And as time passes, the seal doesn't work as well and sometimes they aren't sure if the frige is closed. Older GE and I don't know if current models would do better over time.
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Old 06-18-2019, 08:59 AM   #21
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Unless your fridge is already 36" wide, I would suggest eliminating the side wall by the fridge to leave room for future expansion. It'd be a lot simpler to get a wider fridge without the wall there.
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I like the new layout very much...Huseman has a great point.
I would widen the opening for the fridge in order to have options
for a wider fridge. I would leave the side wall though. Having more
air space around the fridge is a good idea as well.

Go on line to check fridge sizes...height of the fridges as well as width
and depth are a big consideration. I know from experience as my fridge
options were limited due to the opening restraints.
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Idea stolen. What color cabinets? About the refrige. My parents have same bottom frige and it does not pull out full. About 80% and it is not convenient. And as time passes, the seal doesn't work as well and sometimes they aren't sure if the frige is closed. Older GE and I don't know if current models would do better over time.
I'm going to do white cabinets. While grey is stylish right now, I'm not sure if its a forever classic color. White cabinets are always going to be in. IMHO.

I'm going to use a GE 33" French door refrigerator with bottom freezer. I got one in 2018 and it seems to be working well. $1300 IIRC.
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Unless your fridge is already 36" wide, I would suggest eliminating the side wall by the fridge to leave room for future expansion. It'd be a lot simpler to get a wider fridge without the wall there.
You mean the wall to the left of the fridge when you're facing the fridge? I was just going to install a fridge panel wall to the left of the fridge. Not a stud and rock wall.

Yeah good point on expansion. Current plan is to install a 33" fridge, but maybe i'll widen my opening.
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One variation of the latest layout I was playing around with is moving the range to the island. That would buy me about 30" of length outside of the kitchen for the living space.

The downside to that I lose that wide open countertop. I think I'm going to leave the countertop wide open.

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You mean the wall to the left of the fridge when you're facing the fridge? I was just going to install a fridge panel wall to the left of the fridge. Not a stud and rock wall.

Yeah good point on expansion. Current plan is to install a 33" fridge, but maybe i'll widen my opening.
I guess it's a difference in your floor plan vs. your renderings—the floor plan makes it look like a framed wall to the left of the fridge; the rendering looks like just a panel.
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I guess it's a difference in your floor plan vs. your renderings—the floor plan makes it look like a framed wall to the left of the fridge; the rendering looks like just a panel.


Yeah I’m not that good with the floor plan software.


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I would give some thought with the placement of the dishwasher so that it is nearer the sink where you will be rinsing dishes before putting them inside and also where you will go from the dishwasher with the clean dishware after they are clean.

With my layout it is 6 feet from the dishwasher to the cabinets and drawers where the dishware, glasses, and silverware are stored. I can stand at the sink and rinse items and the dishwasher is right next to where I am standing with the door open and the racks pulled out.

For food prep I want a couple feet of counter on each side of the stove and a couple feet of counter on each side of the sink.

Choosing between the two layouts you showed I would go with the one on the bottom.
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