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Old 10-17-2019, 10:57 PM   #1
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Glazing window in cold weather


I need to replace three broken 8x11 window panes and am having problems tooling the putty. Iíve cleaned out all the old glazing and made sure the wood was clean. Iíve kneaded the putty do it is good and pliable and warm. After I push the putty into place, when I start to tool it it separates from itself. Iím wondering If the problem is that it is getting cold here in the northeast (itís been in the 50ís and the putty is cooling down, hindering tooling it. Also the knife is cool. It is supposed to be in the low 60ís Monday so Iím going to try again. Iíll use some linseed oil which I didnít do before.

When is it too cold to glaze a window? If it doesnít work Monday Iím considering caulking them and the glazing in the Spring.


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Old 10-18-2019, 06:26 AM   #2
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Re: Glazing window in cold weather


You can still glaze in the 50's and 60's. You sure there isn't something on the glass or frame that isn't allowing it to bond?

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What was it glazed with previously?
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Old 10-18-2019, 06:59 AM   #3
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Did you prime any raw wood first? Linseed oil can be used in place of primer but it would be best if it dried first. I agree the temps are plenty warm enough to glaze.
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I have applied glazing when the temp was in the 20s .



Chances are , you aren't using the proper technique . A little hard demonstrate on an internet forum , , but it requires a steady smooth draw with the p knife firm against the glass .



But the key is you must push the glazing down . As if you're trying to force the glazing into the wood . If you don't put pressure onto the glazing , it will not lay properly or stay where you want it .
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Old 10-18-2019, 11:43 AM   #5
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All of the above and do yourself a favor and buy a glaziers bent putty knife. Tools make all the difference.
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While some like the glazier knife others don't. I've used them but prefer to use a flexible putty knife for glazing - it always gave me better results with less effort.


As stated above, getting the glazing pushed into the sash is an important step, then it's just a matter of dressing it off.
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As others have mentioned, problem likely not the temperature. I will add one more variable --- the putty --- some brands are better than others, and possibly the age of the putty has some effects. Good technique helps -- but you are not the first to complain the putty pulls apart and does not stick. They can put a man on the moon -- can't they make putty that is easy to tool ?
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Old 10-18-2019, 05:02 PM   #8
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I prefer SWP's 66 Glazing as it isn't oily like DAP and my fingers don't get as messy. Sometimes with DAP it's beneficial to add a few drops of thinner to the putty and mix it in well.
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Everybody sells the DAP but I didn't find good reviews. Last time I did a window, I bought Glazol -- had to drive to far end of town to get it, but didn't have any problems with it.
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Everybody sells the DAP but .



Everybody has DAP on the shelves, some of it is as old as my oldest grandchild.


Old Dap is crap. Buy it at a paint store where they move a lot of it.
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Old 10-20-2019, 06:15 AM   #11
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DAP [both glazing and painter's putty] is subject to dry out between uses too. Learned long ago how to bring it back to life with a little thinner. 20 yrs ago I started using the 66 glazing for both glazing windows and filling nail holes - never looked back!
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Still glazing, not YouTube quality yet but it is going better. I have two more questions though. I was using DAP putty (just threw the rest out). It started to get really sticky, like a dough that didnít have enough flour. Is that from kneading it too much or old, bad putty?

The panes I am doing are part of a large picture window that also has a storm window. I doubt I am going to have time to allow the putty to dry and paint before it gets too cold. If the storm window is put back up before the putty is completely cured, will it still dry properly?


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It should. It has worked that way for me a few times.
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If you can let it dry overnight I wouldn't be worried about painting the fresh glazing.
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If you can let it dry overnight I wouldn't be worried about painting the fresh glazing.


Really? Even if itís in the low 50ís?


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