Drilling Out A USPS Mailbox Lock - General DIY Discussions - Page 2 - DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum
Advertisement


Go Back   DIY Chatroom Home Improvement Forum > DIY Forum > General DIY Discussions

CLICK HERE AND JOIN OUR COMMUNITY TODAY...IT'S FREE!

Like Tree24Likes
Reply
 
Thread Tools
Display Modes
Old 06-29-2019, 10:01 PM   #16
JUSTA MEMBER
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Central Wyoming
Posts: 13,331
Rewards Points: 1,628
Default

Re: Drilling out a USPS mailbox lock


Quote:
Originally Posted by georgemcq View Post
The USPS boxes are never meant to be master keyed per USPS regulations. Keyed differently only. Good luck.
I believe this is an error.

I see that you state that you are a locksmith, and should know better.

I know a man that contracted to build a new post office in a small town, years ago.

He had a master key, that opened every box in the building, and failed to return it afterwards.

He carries that key, and a few years ago, on a bet opened my box with it.

Was I ever surprised.


ED
de-nagorg is online now   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 06-29-2019, 11:00 PM   #17
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 2,381
Rewards Points: 538
Default

Drilling out a USPS mailbox lock


Those locks cost less then $10. Put a screwdriver in the door. Pop the lock. Youíll see a u shaped pin that slides off. Put another one in. The metal piece in the back that latches is real flimsy. It will bend easily. I use to buy a universal lock from a company called McDonald dash. They would come with 4 different tailpieces to match different mailboxes, no need to drill or pick open

https://www.amazon.com/Prime-Line-41...gateway&sr=8-3
BayouRunner is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 06-30-2019, 01:00 AM   #18
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,190
Rewards Points: 1,300
Default

Re: Drilling out a USPS mailbox lock


Quote:
Originally Posted by georgemcq View Post
The USPS boxes are never meant to be master keyed per USPS regulations. Keyed differently only. Good luck.
Yup. Those that say otherwise know nothing of this subject
Anti-wingnut is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Old 06-30-2019, 07:41 AM   #19
JUSTA MEMBER
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Central Wyoming
Posts: 13,331
Rewards Points: 1,628
Default

Re: Drilling out a USPS mailbox lock


Quote:
Originally Posted by Anti-wingnut View Post
Yup. Those that say otherwise know nothing of this subject
See # 16 above.


ED
de-nagorg is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2019, 10:13 AM   #20
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,184
Rewards Points: 890
Default

Re: Drilling out a USPS mailbox lock


I believe Iím drilling in the wrong location. I have to drill where the lock pins are. See diagram.

Iím going to hold a drill block in the desired location and start the hole. Iím also going to bring some cutting oil.

Will this drill bit work better than a diamond or carbide bit? It says itís for hard metal.


@de-nagorg - Thereís no master key with the managerís office. The condo board hired a private company to install the mailbox. The board gave me 3 copies of the keys (canít find my spare).

I drove to the rental site last week and waited for the mail person. She came 30 minutes before her usual 3 hour window. Bad luck. Iím going to go there this week and change the lock once she opens the entire box. While Iím waiting for her, Iím going to try to drill the lock again.

Yes I have a replacement ready to go.



@jproffer arenít carbide and diamond grit bits for tile, masonry, glass etc. I thought steel needed cobalt bits.

I canít use a hammer or pry that box open. If I scratch that surface or bend the mailbox door, Iím going to be charged big money by my condo board. They are money hungry.
Attached Thumbnails
Drilling out a USPS mailbox lock-img_5398.jpg   Drilling out a USPS mailbox lock-img_5399.jpg   Drilling out a USPS mailbox lock-milwaukee-twist-drill-bits-48-89-2313-64_1000.jpg  
jaketrades is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2019, 11:39 AM   #21
Maintenance / Locksmith
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Hockley, TX
Posts: 148
Rewards Points: 296
Default

Re: Drilling out a USPS mailbox lock


Quote:
Originally Posted by de-nagorg View Post
I believe this is an error.

I see that you state that you are a locksmith, and should know better.

I know a man that contracted to build a new post office in a small town, years ago.

He had a master key, that opened every box in the building, and failed to return it afterwards.

He carries that key, and a few years ago, on a bet opened my box with it.

Was I ever surprised.


.



ED
Sorry you are incorrect. I do know better. The mailbox locks are not supposed to be master keyed per USPS regulations for fear the master key will get out. I also know of some apartment complexes that went ahead and used MK locks. Keep in mind that locks have 5 wafers and with all the locks out there the chance for duplication exists.


See new post with USPS regulation sited.

Last edited by georgemcq; 06-30-2019 at 11:53 AM.
georgemcq is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2019, 11:40 AM   #22
Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2016
Posts: 2,381
Rewards Points: 538
Default

Re: Drilling out a USPS mailbox lock


Quote:
Originally Posted by jaketrades View Post
.



I canít use a hammer or pry that box open. If I scratch that surface or bend the mailbox door, Iím going to be charged big money by my condo board. They are money hungry.

I hear what your saying. The locks are really flimsy. I guess Iíve done over a hundred of them over the years that way without damage. But better safe then sorry. I wouldnít think you would need a special drill bit as they are very inexpensive locks.
BayouRunner is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2019, 11:45 AM   #23
Maintenance / Locksmith
 
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Hockley, TX
Posts: 148
Rewards Points: 296
Default

Re: Drilling out a USPS mailbox lock


632.625Key and Record Controls
[Revise the introductory text and the last sentences of items a and b of 632.625 as follows:]
The following key and record controls apply to apartment houses:
a. ***Clearly number each individual receptacle lock on the back; replace lost keys as needed according to lock numbers. Master-keying is not permitted.
b. ***The record of key numbers must be kept until the lock is changed, when the old record may be de*stroyed and a replacement record created.
* * * * *



Here is the USPS regulation that prohibits master keying of mail boxes.
georgemcq is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2019, 12:07 PM   #24
JUSTA MEMBER
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Central Wyoming
Posts: 13,331
Rewards Points: 1,628
Default

Re: Drilling out a USPS mailbox lock


Quote:
Originally Posted by georgemcq View Post
632.625Key and Record Controls
[Revise the introductory text and the last sentences of items a and b of 632.625 as follows:]
The following key and record controls apply to apartment houses:
a. ***Clearly number each individual receptacle lock on the back; replace lost keys as needed according to lock numbers. Master-keying is not permitted.
b. ***The record of key numbers must be kept until the lock is changed, when the old record may be de*stroyed and a replacement record created.
* * * * *



Here is the USPS regulation that prohibits master keying of mail boxes.
All this still does not explain how a federal contractor that is licensed to the U S P S , has a key to MY mailbox, now does it.

# 16 above.

Obviously someone in the U S P S does not follow their own rules.

Or the rules are a HOAX.

Which would not surprise me one bit when dealing with the Government.

ED
de-nagorg is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2019, 12:19 PM   #25
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,190
Rewards Points: 1,300
Default

Re: Drilling out a USPS mailbox lock


We aren't even talking about a PO, the OP was talking about a cluster box
jproffer and jaketrades like this.
Anti-wingnut is offline   Reply With Quote
The Following User Says Thank You to Anti-wingnut For This Useful Post:
jaketrades (06-30-2019)
Old 06-30-2019, 01:57 PM   #26
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,184
Rewards Points: 890
Default

Re: Drilling out a USPS mailbox lock


Quote:
Originally Posted by Anti-wingnut View Post
We aren't even talking about a PO, the OP was talking about a cluster box


Yes. Cluster box.

And the lock currently installed isnít a flimsy one from what I understand.

This is the existing lock - same being used as the replacement.




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
jaketrades is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2019, 02:29 PM   #27
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,190
Rewards Points: 1,300
Default

Re: Drilling out a USPS mailbox lock


Oh, those are tough.

If you drill it out you should be able to release the dog with a screw driver. Otherwise wait for the mail person and pull the clip
jaketrades likes this.
Anti-wingnut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2019, 02:39 PM   #28
Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: NYC
Posts: 1,184
Rewards Points: 890
Default

Re: Drilling out a USPS mailbox lock


Quote:
Originally Posted by Anti-wingnut;
Oh, those are tough.

If you drill it out you should be able to release the dog with a screw driver. Otherwise wait for the mail person and pull the clip

Something tells me Iíll be sitting around for 3-4 hours. Iíll bring some reading material. And a copy of the lease I signed with the tenant to prove Ownership


Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
de-nagorg likes this.
jaketrades is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2019, 03:46 PM   #29
Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,190
Rewards Points: 1,300
Default

Re: Drilling out a USPS mailbox lock


Quote:
Originally Posted by de-nagorg View Post
All this still does not explain how a federal contractor that is licensed to the U S P S , has a key to MY mailbox
Your friend is a dishonest jerk? And broke the law?
Anti-wingnut is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-30-2019, 04:40 PM   #30
JUSTA MEMBER
 
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: Central Wyoming
Posts: 13,331
Rewards Points: 1,628
Default

Re: Drilling out a USPS mailbox lock


Quote:
Originally Posted by jaketrades View Post
Yes. Cluster box.

And the lock currently installed isnít a flimsy one from what I understand.

This is the existing lock - same being used as the replacement.




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
And it had three keys, and they lost them all?

Gracious, I'm glad that I am not the landlord.

I would arrive an hour early, you cannot depend on those carriers, they have an attitude, that they are in control, and will do whatever they like.

At least the ones that I have had the " pleasure" of dealing with.


ED
de-nagorg is online now   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply


Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off





Top of Page | View New Posts