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Old 04-13-2019, 09:42 PM   #31
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About 20 years ago during a move, in the back of a kitchen cabinet I found a unopened can of Clabber Girl baking powder. It has no 'Best By' date, no website nor a UPC code.
There should be a date on the label, where the manufacturer printed the label.

In tiny print, under the makers name.

This is worth more than you would think, ever watch Antiques Road Show, where someone has kitchen items stored for decades, and found again after a death in the family.

The appraisers really like ones that still look new, unopened, but still rate less pristene items too.

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I have containers I received as a gift of finish salt that I treat with such reverence I may never finish it before I meet my demise. White Flake Sea Salt, Pink Salt, Red Sea Salt, and Black Sea Salt. I'm a little suspicious of the black one. No "made in" place of origin listed. Black Sea, that's not somewhere down south near New Orleans, is it?

Gotta admit. Lamb chops rubbed with rosemary and chopped garlic, light black pepper and kosher salt, left to sit while reaching room temp, grilled to medium rare with a side of roasted asparagooos, potatoe latkes w/homemade jalapeno catsup, hit all of the above lightly with some of the finish salt at service, hard to beat. But not the black salt. Black salt? What's up with black salt?
Ah shoot. that sounds so good, I would not know whether to eat it or get naked and roll in it.......
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@wooleybooger If you're only going to have one "gourmet" salt, you picked a winner!

Himalayan pink has 84 minerals and trace elements and is widely considered to be the most beneficial Table salt is just sodium, if you're going to have salt, why not get some other needed bits while you're at it! Has important stuff like calcium, magnesium, potassium, copper, iron, and more.
Mystriss here's a little background on my comment. I have on hand 40 lbs. of rice, about 50 lbs. dried beans, 60 lbs. AP flour, 60 lbs. white sugar, 16 lbs. brown sugar, 12 lbs. canning and pickling salt which I also use as table salt and several hundred full pint canning jars. I need to spend money on something else for a while.

I get it and am aware of the mineral content of pink salt just need other things now.
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Mystriss here's a little background on my comment. I have on hand 40 lbs. of rice, about 50 lbs. dried beans, 60 lbs. AP flour, 60 lbs. white sugar, 16 lbs. brown sugar, 12 lbs. canning and pickling salt which I also use as table salt and several hundred full pint canning jars. I need to spend money on something else for a while.

I get it and am aware of the mineral content of pink salt just need other things now.

Now we all know where to go when the zombies attack.
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My favorite grocery store is American Discount Foods in The Big City near me. They specialize in selling "dated" food at half price or less. From their web site, follow the links in this article:

The Truth About Date Codes and Expired Food Products
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I'm a fan of Bush's Country Style Baked Beans. I also like the real Boston style baked beans, like B&M, but they get so thick I have to add water.

Anyway, I was in a local grocery store here in WA state, where the food nazis are tough and pushy about beyond-date products. I picked up a couple cans of Bush's Country Style Baked Beans, and noticed that the labels were a little off-color. I checked the bottom of the can, and it said "best by Nov 2017". I've seen a lot of canned goods that are past their best-by dates, but 17 months seemed a bit extreme.

I called a shelf-stocker, who called a manager, who said "this stuff has enough preservatives and sugar to keep it good for at least five years. We found a case at the back that had gone unnoticed for a while." A while?? Yeah. He said he'd sell me the rest of that case (nine cans) at half price, and if I didn't like the flavor, he'd give me my money back.

I've had two of them so far...can't tell the difference.
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I made baked beans yesterday. Shortcut, I was going to use canned pork-n-beans as the base ingredient. Van Camps was, I don't know, 99 cents a can. Store brand was something like 69 cents. So with a squint and some effort, I compared the listed ingredients on each label. Neither, I say neither had any pork! Sure, as a kid if you ended up getting that little chunk of pork you pushed it aside and dang sure didn't eat it. But by golly i'm an adult gearing up to make a mess of baked beans. I might want pork in my dag dog pork-n-beans. Truth in labeling!

Truth, I would have tossed that chunk of pork. I cut up about a half pound of bacon and browned to a crisp for the baked beans. But how can they call it pork-n-beans with no pork? It. just. ain't. right. I bought 2 cans of Van Camps, and 2 of the store brand. Van Camps' was sweeter and soupier. The store brand seemed to have more beans and more straight tomato flavor. I think I actually preferred the store brand.
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I'm a fan of Bush's Country Style Baked Beans. I also like the real Boston style baked beans, like B&M, but they get so thick I have to add water.

Anyway, I was in a local grocery store here in WA state, where the food nazis are tough and pushy about beyond-date products. I picked up a couple cans of Bush's Country Style Baked Beans, and noticed that the labels were a little off-color. I checked the bottom of the can, and it said "best by Nov 2017". I've seen a lot of canned goods that are past their best-by dates, but 17 months seemed a bit extreme.

I called a shelf-stocker, who called a manager, who said "this stuff has enough preservatives and sugar to keep it good for at least five years. We found a case at the back that had gone unnoticed for a while." A while?? Yeah. He said he'd sell me the rest of that case (nine cans) at half price, and if I didn't like the flavor, he'd give me my money back.

I've had two of them so far...can't tell the difference.

They recently started selling Bush's up here and I like them as well. Difference between 'best before' and 'expiry' dates:


https://blog.liebherr.com/appliances...s-expiry-date/
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One must exercise caution and inspect the cans but if I told you how far 'out of date' we eat some things you would try to have me committed. 18 months is a no brainer.
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One must exercise caution and inspect the cans but if I told you how far 'out of date' we eat some things you would try to have me committed. 18 months is a no brainer.
Yeah I get it. The can ain't bulging so it's OK. I've gone up to 24 months with no problem but exercise some caution, you never know.

Actually probably not much difference from home canned goods. Ok for several years depending on storage conditions.
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As a teenager , exploring the mountains of Western Colorado, I discovered a cellar on an old homestead, up Sinbad Canyon, very near the Colorado/ Utah state line.

There was a few dozen jars of Peaches, Rutabagas, and other very old foods that must have been abandoned long ago.

They were in jars with glass lids with red rubber seals , some of the seals had failed due to age, but the Peaches that were still sealed were the most delicious Peaches (canned), that I have ever had the pleasure of consuming.

So I do think that as long as a seal has not been broken, the contents are safe to eat.

I recently discovered a can of Mini Ravioli, in my cupboard, with a best by date of 2009, it still tasted fine, and I did not get sick from it.


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As a teenager , exploring the mountains of Western Colorado, I discovered a cellar on an old homestead, up Sinbad Canyon, very near the Colorado/ Utah state line.

There was a few dozen jars of Peaches, Rutabagas, and other very old foods that must have been abandoned long ago.

They were in jars with glass lids with red rubber seals , some of the seals had failed due to age, but the Peaches that were still sealed were the most delicious Peaches (canned), that I have ever had the pleasure of consuming.




So I do think that as long as a seal has not been broken, the contents are safe to eat.

I recently discovered a can of Mini Ravioli, in my cupboard, with a best by date of 2009, it still tasted fine, and I did not get sick from it.


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I have a correction to make, in the interest of truth in labeling.

Revisited the whole pork and beans controversy. Both the Van Camp's and the store brand of pork and beans do indeed contain pork. I didn't have my readers on in the store. Pork is listed way down there as the 4th and 5th ingredient, respectively, in the contains less than 2% of the following ingredients section. So both products do indeed contain all kinds of pork. All kinds.

Apologies, didn't mean to propagate the fake pork and bean news.
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Remember the excitement about the BPA plastic in water and baby bottles a few years ago.
The recently stopped using the same product as a liner in tins for canned food. The older the can the more chemical you get.
You keep eating out of those old cans and you won't make it old age.
Too late, I'm already older than I ever thought that I was going to get to.




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