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Old Yesterday, 12:11 AM   #61
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Our daughter carries a fire extinguisher in her car but is not a trained first responder. I have cautioned her to use only to save a life, and not to risk her life trying to save property. And always approach a burning vehicle from the side. There are too many things that are explosive or pressurized, not to mention toxic chemicals released by combustion.

That is what they told us in the Army.
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Our daughter carries a fire extinguisher in her car but is not a trained first responder. I have cautioned her to use only to save a life, and not to risk her life trying to save property. And always approach a burning vehicle from the side. There are too many things that are explosive or pressurized, not to mention toxic chemicals released by combustion.
That's smart. I've actually got even more stuff in my car, but somehow my edit didn't take.

But to your point, equipment is worthless unless you know how to use it. How many people have actually USED a fire extinguisher? Not many. A good thing to do is see if you have any older or almost expired ones that need replacing. Find a safe place to discharge it and try it out. (Ummm... assuming it's a typical ABC extinguisher, just don't do this anyplace you care about... e.g., the chemicals might kill some grass, stain a recently sealed driveway or whatever.)

Also to your point, more importantly than from the side, is from upwind. Without firefighting SCBA gear, as you point out, a lot of burning stuff is toxic. And for that matter, if it's an electric car and the battery is somehow actually on fire, very little is going to make a dent in putting that out. You also won't be cooling down any handles; that is, if the goal is to get someone out of a car and the side is burning, the handle may be super hot. So you need something to help try to open it or try another door or bust a window.

I suppose my main point is, unless you have proper gear, there's no reason to not just let a car burn unless you're trying to pull someone out.

By the way, while we're on the topic, if a car is an accident or on fire and the airbags haven't deployed, that's another risk to stay aware of if one attempts a rescue. Even with cut battery cables, it's possible some capacitor somewhere has enough charge to blow one. When we extricate from vehicles, we'll cut the battery cables, (if we can - some batteries are in the car, not under hood), then posts being careful to avoid bags, and even then we assume something could blow.

Anyway, I know you started this comment based on the fire extinguisher, but the real thing is know how to use the gear you carry, whatever it is.
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That's smart. I've actually got even more stuff in my car, but somehow my edit didn't take.

But to your point, equipment is worthless unless you know how to use it. How many people have actually USED a fire extinguisher? Not many. A good thing to do is see if you have any older or almost expired ones that need replacing. Find a safe place to discharge it and try it out. (Ummm... assuming it's a typical ABC extinguisher, just don't do this anyplace you care about... e.g., the chemicals might kill some grass, stain a recently sealed driveway or whatever.)

Also to your point, more importantly than from the side, is from upwind. Without firefighting SCBA gear, as you point out, a lot of burning stuff is toxic. And for that matter, if it's an electric car and the battery is somehow actually on fire, very little is going to make a dent in putting that out. You also won't be cooling down any handles; that is, if the goal is to get someone out of a car and the side is burning, the handle may be super hot. So you need something to help try to open it or try another door or bust a window.

I suppose my main point is, unless you have proper gear, there's no reason to not just let a car burn unless you're trying to pull someone out.

By the way, while we're on the topic, if a car is an accident or on fire and the airbags haven't deployed, that's another risk to stay aware of if one attempts a rescue. Even with cut battery cables, it's possible some capacitor somewhere has enough charge to blow one. When we extricate from vehicles, we'll cut the battery cables, (if we can - some batteries are in the car, not under hood), then posts being careful to avoid bags, and even then we assume something could blow.

Anyway, I know you started this comment based on the fire extinguisher, but the real thing is know how to use the gear you carry, whatever it is.
What do you carry in your car?
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That's smart. I've actually got even more stuff in my car, but somehow my edit didn't take.

But to your point, equipment is worthless unless you know how to use it. How many people have actually USED a fire extinguisher? Not many. A good thing to do is see if you have any older or almost expired ones that need replacing. Find a safe place to discharge it and try it out. (Ummm... assuming it's a typical ABC extinguisher, just don't do this anyplace you care about... e.g., the chemicals might kill some grass, stain a recently sealed driveway or whatever.)

Also to your point, more importantly than from the side, is from upwind. Without firefighting SCBA gear, as you point out, a lot of burning stuff is toxic. And for that matter, if it's an electric car and the battery is somehow actually on fire, very little is going to make a dent in putting that out. You also won't be cooling down any handles; that is, if the goal is to get someone out of a car and the side is burning, the handle may be super hot. So you need something to help try to open it or try another door or bust a window.

I suppose my main point is, unless you have proper gear, there's no reason to not just let a car burn unless you're trying to pull someone out.

By the way, while we're on the topic, if a car is an accident or on fire and the airbags haven't deployed, that's another risk to stay aware of if one attempts a rescue. Even with cut battery cables, it's possible some capacitor somewhere has enough charge to blow one. When we extricate from vehicles, we'll cut the battery cables, (if we can - some batteries are in the car, not under hood), then posts being careful to avoid bags, and even then we assume something could blow.

Anyway, I know you started this comment based on the fire extinguisher, but the real thing is know how to use the gear you carry, whatever it is.

Good points all. She actually is trained to use an extinguisher as well as CPR/FA (she's a civilian military employee).
It seems there are two types of motorists these days: the majority who will drive by (perhaps slow to take a picture to post) and the minority who will stop. It is incumbent on those who do stop to remain safe. The last thing an emergency situation needs is to be made worse, even by good intentions.
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What do you carry in your car?
Everything I listed in my above post, plus...

* breakdown snow shovel.
* mini air compressor.
* multitool.

Some other odds and ends. My kit isn't out of paranoia, so much as many years doing volunteer EMS. And - while not as necessary for me now - years where I had occasion to be driving places that were somewhat off the beaten path. Not crazy off road or anything, but a lot of in between places. If you have a wreck and you're really badly injured, maybe you're just all the way screwed. Oh well, bad luck. But there's plenty of lesser situations where proper kit and knowing how to use it is the difference between boring some folks with your harrowing story one day while they politely nod vs. actually being the sad news story. The one where the police or rescue experts all say something like, "If only he had... or knew how to..." etc. etc.

Oh, and if you have kids? Then it's your job to be thinking be prepared for crap; even if low probability.
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There was one Medical Center in LA that taught their new employees to use a fire extinguishers & start at the base of the fire. Can't remember if it was UCLA or LBM.

I was reminded of the hazards of helping out with an accident. An older woman hit something & two of us stopped to see if she needed help. She was very confused & was searching in her car seat for a sandwich. I think it was obvious she had hit her head - maybe an abrasion on her forehead.

The Good Samaritan wanted to put a cervical collar on her. He had one but little experience. I knew she would just yank it off. Besides, it has to be a certain size for each person.

He was mad that I didn't think it would work. I didn't forbid him, I didn't have that right, just told him she was too confused, I thought. We also didn't have the right to restrain her from taking it off. People often want to do whatever they can think of to help someone & it's not always appropriate.. Same in the hospital.

Now I realize she probably was Diabetic & had low blood sugar. At least she was able to remember the sandwich but nothing else. The ambulance came & took her.
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